Terror attacks in France and Tunisia/now

Jingl was the one who said things like that could not happen in any EC military. Now she's been reminded, she cops out.
The link I gave shows that some people think these atrocities have not been satisfactorily resolved, and that is why resentment festers.
I have never said that anything IS does is excusable or understandable. What I have said is that the British are not without faults.
In fact, it's quite biblical. Let he who is without sin, or take the beam out of your own eye. I am sure soon will give me the full text.

American soldiers raped Vietnamese woman and young girls , but so what, they didn't kill them.

Some here will remember the film reels of the atrocities carried out by the Mau Mau, only now is some of the truth coming out , we were no better

How can we wallow in how we won the battle of Waterloo celebrations yet dismiss the wrongs we did

What I am saying, Ana, is that even something that happened in 1190 is remembered in the community. There is no synagogue in York, and never has been.

that was to durhamjen. and probably to granjura. and others who like to dwell on miserable things.

I'm leaving this thread. Moulder in it all on your own.

Are you really saying that because British forces have done bad things in the past, the atrocities carried out by ISIS are understandable and excusable, durhamjen (and others)?

Or just that we should put up and shut up?

Oh yes! I was expecting that one! They have all been investigated thoroughly, punishments doled out, and outrage expressed by the general population.

Jingl, there have been lots of atrocities done by British forces, lots of enquiries and lots of whitewashing.

www.britisharmykillings.com/

Are you excusing this behaviour?

Ana. I think I know enough now. And to know when it is being used incorrectly.

And I think I am right in saying that ISIL or whatever they are going to be called, are not muslim fundamentalists, as they dont keep to the muslim religion, but go beyond it.
Which is why the muslim community, as a whole, are not happy about ISIL and what they are doing.

1190?

Aren't we going a bit too far back now...?

Of course, if you go to York, the fact that there is no Jewish community is mentioned. That's because the Jews committed mass suicide there rather than be massacred in 1190.

The Algerian war was much closer ever, and 1000s were massacred, from 1954 until 1962. Many Gneters have children born in the early 60s- so NO NO NO it is not far back.

durhamjen I agree that the French war crimes in Algeria were horrifying. (Have seen pictures on facebook) BUT a. it wasn't the British and b. they need to come into today's world. You can't go on excusing such behaviour forever because of what happened in the past. The world would never progress. If any military in the EC behaved in that way today, there would be a huge outcry!

durhamjen- he posted them on his FB page- not sure it was a good idea, really. However, i did post that it was the year my dad was born, not because it is relevant as such, but because Jingle- it is not that far back- that the French thought that torturing North AFricans, and sending official postcards home to boast about the great number of severed heads- was totally acceptable and accepted.

But soon, you don't seem to know yourself what the word means.

Sorry but I just don't understand some here, we musn't mention the past and the wrong we did but we support the Jews who say we must never allow the atrocities of the Second World War to be forgotten,

I will feel obliged, if the term or word is used incorrectly, Mishap.

Hundred,sorry, not hindred.

Jingl, did you see granjura's post? That's what Annie is talking about.
It's only a hindred years since the 1st World War. There should be lessons in that, or have we all forgotten?

Bobbysgirl, I do not post to wind up. I do think to dismiss the desecration of graves as - no one was killed is cruel , true no one was killed but there must have been people devasted so to dismiss it is in my opinion cruel, not in yours , fair enough

Please don't feel obliged to discuss fundamentalism again soon.

Oh FFS Anniebach! You can't go back that far! Blame it on Blair and BUsh, yes, but not colonialism. Sooner or later people have to live in the present and take the blame for their actions.

Anniebach, cannot understand your reasoning at all! To say acts of hatred should be all classed the same! To say that desegrating graves is just as bad as committing murder! In your opinion then, all people who commit a crime should be given the same sentence !!!

Surely you can't really believe that. Maybe your comments are made just to wind people up and should be just ignored as such. Personally I find them in bad taste!!!

Yes, we've brought it on ourselves and should be beating our breasts and wearing sackcloth and ashes because of what our forefathers did - serves us jolly well right!

Oh here we go....Whatever happens it's all our fault.