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Terror attacks in France and Tunisia/now

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POGS Fri 26-Jun-15 13:19:20

What a scary time we live in.

One man beheaded this morning in France, now at least 19 people killed in attacks on 'possibly' 2 hotels in Sousse, Tunisia. That is what is being reported at the moment, they are believed to be tourists.

It must be terrifying for those on holiday being told to barricade themselves in their rooms.

Just awful.

Anniebach Mon 29-Jun-15 15:27:08

Please do not raise your voice at me Anya, I suggest you visit a mosque , talk to the people and listen , and I do repeat listen to what they say not tell them what , when, where and how you want them to speak

Anya Mon 29-Jun-15 15:21:28

Cause trouble? CAUSE TROUBLE? angry

You mean like shooting dozens of sunbathing holidaymakers isn't 'causing' trouble?

Like suicide bombers don't 'cause trouble'?

Like charity workers and journalist being beheaded 'cause trouble'

Oh let's not rock the boat hey? Tegan and others are absolutely right. British Muslims need to be more vocal and speak out against this disgusting, bullying section of their religion. Islam is NOT a religion of peace these days and if you're not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.

And when your average UK citizen see the average Muslim making a stand against this travesty of their faith then Jo Public will rally behind them and sod the BNP and the like.

Tegan Mon 29-Jun-15 14:58:04

I feel that British muslims have to be more vocal in their condemnation of these atrocities

Anniebach Mon 29-Jun-15 14:15:18

Anya, any march in this country would cause trouble, if Muslims took to the streets the far right would be there too . Should we not accept terrorist attacks are not supported by Muslims without them having to constantly keep telling us. They just can't do any right now so little wonder a minority of young Muslims are easy prey for the extremists ? British born yet daily criticised , they need to belong somewhere and they must feel unwanted in their own country

Anya Mon 29-Jun-15 13:48:44

On TV I watched a march in Sousse yesterday, a banner-carrying protest of Muslim men and woman in their hundreds. They took to the streets with their placards saying 'Not in my name' and other anti-terrorist slogans.

That's what I want to see in this country too.

Tunisia is in a delicate position politically at the moment with many of its young men being recruited to Isis. Extremists are determined this country will not survive as an example of Arab democracy.

Anniebach Mon 29-Jun-15 12:48:12

Surely hate is the cause of terrorism no matter the victim or the terrorist .

I do wonder how I as a Christian would feel if every day I read Christians carry out atrocities . The murders carried out in America by Christian fundamentalists are not in my name

Jen, people do not want to listen to or do not believe the notinmyname group , I feel sorrow for the decent peace loving Muslims, they face constant criticism every day, even their choice of dress , uproar over the selling of halal meat , nothing about kosher meat yet the killing is the same, a cut throat . Rowan Williams caused uproar because he supported some shari laws yet the Beth Din has bern practiced in this country for over 100 years

annodomini Mon 29-Jun-15 12:38:24

Indeed, trisher, some of the most zealous Muslims are, in fact, British converts. Apart from that, Islam covers a multitude of races and tribes from West Africa to Indonesia and China.

trisher Mon 29-Jun-15 12:09:06

Pogs Muslims are not a "race" it is a religion and has followers in practically every country in the world. There has been coverage but I just saw a film showing the damage and didn't hear any report about the casualty numbers or the numbers of deaths. I appreciate that anxious friends and relatives want to see reports about Tunisia but we should at least have some clear information about other attacks

janeainsworth Mon 29-Jun-15 12:05:07

Anniebach
Merlot posted a link to a report about the Kuwaiti bombing last Friday.

TriciaF Mon 29-Jun-15 11:49:59

The bomb in the Kuwait mosque may have been to do with the hatred of some sunnis towards the shiites. It was a shiite mosque.
My DIL's colleague's husband was one of those killed.

durhamjen Mon 29-Jun-15 11:12:19

Anniebach, I have just been reading an article which says that more Muslims have been killed in all these terror attacks than non-Muslims. I rhink, like you, that does not come across in the news coverage.
Perhaps the notinmyname group should become more vociferous.

Bobbysgirl19 Mon 29-Jun-15 11:03:41

Don't have to apologise Anniebach as you are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine.

Anniebach Mon 29-Jun-15 10:46:35

Bobbysgirl, sorry but I cannot agree , there was the same media coverage on the murders in the Charlie Hebro attacks. I brought the Kuwait bombing into the thread because there was no mention of it,

trisher Mon 29-Jun-15 10:39:33

I was in Tunisia earlier this year. It is a beautiful country but very poor, Tourism was its hope of development. It is of course a modern moderate Muslim country exactly what the terrorist want to suppress. When I did a tour our Tunisian guide was very keen to tell us about the history of its people, its historical links to southern Spain, and that it did not agree with full face veils for women. So sorry for the people involved in the shooting but also for all the people of Tunisia who cannot catch an aeroplane and go home. I would love to go back one day and see more of the country.

Bobbysgirl19 Mon 29-Jun-15 10:37:07

I agree POGS there was coverage of the Kuwaiti killings on a lot of the news reports.

Anniebach the obvious reason why there has been wider coverage of the Tunisia killings is that many many British people have lost their lives, and we live in Britain!

POGS Mon 29-Jun-15 10:20:43

Kuwait has been mentioned a lot, most headlines cover the murders of those in Tunisia, France and Kuwait at the start of their reports , usually as a block report of acts of terrorism.

Perhaps you should widen your viewing Anniebach.

The reason why I have answered your post is the fact you appear to be making a point of the Muslim race being ignored, simply not the case in my opinion, more you have not been aware of the coverage on 24 hour news.

Anniebach Mon 29-Jun-15 10:04:22

The same day a Mosque in Kuwait was bombed killing and injuring many Muslims, little mention of this

Mishap Mon 29-Jun-15 09:58:57

Soutra - exactly. sad

Soutra Mon 29-Jun-15 09:57:06

And some people wonder why fundamentalism is a dangerous thing?

KatyK Mon 29-Jun-15 09:53:47

Me too Mishap sad

Mishap Mon 29-Jun-15 08:45:06

I really do worry for the futures of my children and dear grandchildren. It is too dreadful for words.

absent Mon 29-Jun-15 06:26:49

Galen That was in the days of President Habib Bourguiba and is one more example of the stability that comes with tyranny – perhaps tyranny in the ancient Roman sense as he was, at least quite a lot of the time, much more forward thinking than many other Arab leaders. Nevertheless he was a heavily authoritative president and Tunisia was a highly controlled one-party state for a long time. Tunisia seems to be another case of when it falls apart, it really falls apart.

annodomini Sun 28-Jun-15 23:51:47

I know that my GD1 is going tomorrow for a week in Turkey with her BF and I am sure the beach resorts there will be vulnerable. Fingers firmly crossed. What more can I do?

Bobbysgirl19 Sun 28-Jun-15 23:39:02

Absolutely heartbreaking news! They are now saying 30 British are dead but some poor people still not identified!

merlotgran Fri 26-Jun-15 18:08:00

DD and family stayed in that hotel three years ago shock I'll be phoning her tomorrow so hopefully they'll have decided against going to Morocco. We've had three incidents today but who knows if that's it??