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TTIP and NHS

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durhamjen Sat 27-Jun-15 12:39:57

This sounds very bad for the NHS if it gets passed.

www.peoplesnhs.org/

Please sign and pass it on.

vampirequeen Fri 10-Jul-15 19:10:07

That's brilliant. We have to protect the NHS.

durhamjen Thu 09-Jul-15 23:52:10

"We did it! We stopped the European Parliament weakening our NHS!

Last week, People’s NHS sent out an email about a TTIP amendment that could have weakened our NHS even more. And wow did you respond – over 31,000 letters sent to MEPs! TTIP is bad news but if that amendment had passed, private companies would have got even more room to sue governments for trying to reverse the sell-off of our NHS.

But we stopped it! Official EU records show that the amendment to weaken protections for our NHS has been dropped!"

From the people's NHS, vampire. Fingers crossed it will work. Big business does not always win - just most of the time.

vampirequeen Thu 09-Jul-15 22:45:23

I saw. Unfortunately big business will win because they rule the world.

durhamjen Wed 08-Jul-15 23:26:16

Unfortunately they lost, according to War on Want, but it was just a vote to continue negotiations, not to pass the TTIP.

durhamjen Wed 08-Jul-15 22:17:35

Been voted on, vampire.

www.labour4ne.org.uk/ttipvote

The whole Labour group voted against TTIP today as they wanted to protect the NHS from more privatisation.

durhamjen Wed 08-Jul-15 19:02:16

www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2015-07-07a.174.6&s=TTIP#g177.5

I do not hold out much hope for TTIP in the commons debate if this is how Hunt answers a query from an MP, vampire.

durhamjen Mon 06-Jul-15 20:27:35

Debate on TTIP in the Commons on 9th, Thursday, vampire.

www.theyworkforyou.com/calendar/?d=2015-07-09#cal3929

durhamjen Sun 05-Jul-15 19:43:01

"Within seconds, he segues into one of his current favourite topics. “I’ve just had an interesting discussion on the TTIP.” The what? “Ah, sorry – the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership. This is a negotiation between the US and European Union to develop a way in which investment would be protected, and a way in which governments must not make life difficult for investors. The fear is that it’s a race to the bottom, with the lowest common denominator on both sides of the Atlantic becoming the norm. Hence a government that tries to enforce special conditions on a company, such as wage levels and working conditions, could then be threatened with legal action by a newly created trade court.” This is a good example of why many people believe it is important to have a candidate like Corbyn because it is unlikely we would hear much about the TTIP from the three other candidates (Andy Burnham, Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall) in the leadership race."

From an interview with Jeremy Corbyn. He knows about TTIP, vampire.

durhamjen Sun 05-Jul-15 18:42:56

www.google.com/url?q=http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/05/private-health-lobbyist-nhs-privatisation-dalton-review&sa=U&ei=YmuZVY7oNMbaUcKhjqAM&ved=0CAgQFjAB&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFBu7x4fuNCctI9-YE1eS04EZYCOQ

I know this is not about TTIP, but it shows how and why we are gradually losing our health service to private healthcare. It shows how TTIP can get under the radar.

Why are we only just finding out about it now?
Why did it need an FoI request?
We will lose our NHS to Dave and his cronies if we do not fight against the privatisation of the NHS.

vampirequeen Sat 04-Jul-15 08:51:48

I sent emails to my MEPs and again only the UKIP guy replied. Not a good reflection on the other MEPs.

durhamjen Fri 03-Jul-15 22:57:39

Today's position.

www.labour4ne.org.uk/news_about_the_ttip_vote_in_the_european_parliament

durhamjen Thu 02-Jul-15 15:22:31

I should read all my emails first, shouldn't I, vampire?

act.goingtowork.org.uk/page/m/1f11b3fb/3ab9ec2e/5460b555/54073efe/2988331593/VEsF/

Vote on 8th July.

durhamjen Thu 02-Jul-15 15:06:04

There was a question on TTIP and the effect it would have on the NHS in parliament yesterday.

The response was that it would take too long to find out the information. Not really a response to the question, but expected that from the government spokesman.

vampirequeen Wed 01-Jul-15 08:00:40

Why 'give it a rest,' Ana?

Protecting the NHS should be important to all of us. We're so used to it that we take it for granted.

I have several friends who live abroad and find it very difficult to access medical help because they can't afford to pay for it. Imagine having arthritis in your knees and not being able to afford pain killers or diabetes and not being able to afford a regular supply of insulin.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 22:37:01

Give it a rest, durj.

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 22:33:26

We'll have to let each other know when we hear, vampire. Like you said, it's unusual having a thread to ourselves.
Even Ana only had one comment to make.

vampirequeen Tue 30-Jun-15 22:11:41

No response from the others yet.

At least it's not been passed as it stands.

durhamjen Mon 29-Jun-15 22:30:26

Found it. They have voted to send it back to committee. That means they were worried about the opposition to it.
I expect our MEPs will let us know, vampire.

durhamjen Mon 29-Jun-15 22:26:12

I have been trawling the net and cannot find anything about the debate. I suppose they could still be talking, or have cancelled the vote again as they knew they were going to lose.

vampirequeen Mon 29-Jun-15 22:05:54

I'm often in that club too grin

durhamjen Mon 29-Jun-15 21:44:58

Had an email from one of my MEPs today, to say that they are going to vote against if the Tory group try and keep in the threat to public services, which includes the NHS. I would think it would be better to have an amendment which specifically excludes public services.

I'm used to being in a minority, vampire!

vampirequeen Mon 29-Jun-15 18:05:45

Seems like it's just me and you, durhamjen grin

durhamjen Mon 29-Jun-15 10:38:49

The vote's today, by the way. Link at the top for anyone who wants to send a message to your MEP.

durhamjen Mon 29-Jun-15 10:37:06

You shouldn't believe him anyway, vampire.

leftfootforward.org/2015/04/dont-buy-ukips-hypocrisy-on-ttip/

vampirequeen Sun 28-Jun-15 23:35:02

It's not meant to be a compliment.