The Left's way forward

Can't agree with that; much as I loathed her,if she had no charisma she wouldn't have divided opinion so much. I still think the first woman Prime Minister of this country should have been Barbara Castle, though.

If anyone could make me vote for Corbyn it would be that plonker Blair ggrrrrr.....

Thatcher managed without a scrap of charisma and extra special ? no, she had Sir Keith Joseph pulling the strings .

The media are turning this into a circus, parliment in recess what else have the political teams to cover . I think Jeremy has been very polite and calm considering the moronic questions hurled at him

All this rubbish about leaders on the left lost elections because they were of the left, they were slaughtered by Murdoch . Kinnock took on the far left himself . Blair rabbiting on about moving to the centre ,he nestled up to Murdoch . Brown came in and the Murdoch guns were turned on him

D'you think the problem is that two of the people standing are women? I shouldn't say this, I know, but it takes an extra special woman to lead a political party and I don't thing either woman has that charisma. The S.O. says he saw an interview with Jeremy Corbyn on [I think] Ch4 and he was very aggressive towards the interviewer.

The situation with Labour is quite depressing. Yvette Cooper was on the Radio4 news this morning and she just sounded so angry.
Husband listened to the debate last night on LBC and said J. Corbyn was by far the most convincing. If only he has the personality to unite people a bit more. They need to, in order to provide some kind of opposition to the dreadful things the Tories are doing.
It's supposed to be 50 days until the leadership election, a long time to go yet.

I vaguely recall something on TV but I didn't really follow it as I just thought "oh Grant Shapps in hot water again".

I just looked it up. It seems that there was no conclusive resolution of the matter. GS threatened to sue for libel and possibly make a complaint under election law, but presumably decided not to pursue it. A few weeks later he was demoted. From what I've just read, my understanding is it wasn't the Guardian that raised the issue but Newsnight.

Thanks jen. I'll show it to the S.O. He used to work for Crookes till Boots sold them to Reckitts.

The Guardian story accusing Grant Schnapps

Missed which one POGS?

Eloethan

Surprised you missed reading that one in the Guardian.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/04/vince-cable-boots-uk-taxes-lib-dem-stefano-pessina-monaco

This year. Vince Cable said it was true.

Agree with his principles or not, he does stick with his unlike many MP's

I don't know about the Contribsx file to which you refer POGS but Grant Shapps has been found on more than one occasion to have played fast and loose with the truth and, perhaps because he was an embarrassment to the Conservative Party, was demoted in May.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2014/06/11/pay-up-boots/

This was last year, Tegan. Do not know if it's changed.

Interesting although this:

"Ironically given his later aversion, Mr Corbyn himself also received a grammar school education, at the prestigious Adams School."

is ironical in itself. Most of us don't choose our schools - our parents do.

The third marriage does seem more solidly referenced here than the tittle-tattle put forward in the Mail.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11710685/jeremy-corbyn-profile.html

For anyone who's interested.

Remember The Guardian ran a vindictive story accusing Conservative MP. Grant Schapps of being behind a wiki account called 'Contribsx'. The likes of Clegg and Ashdown tried to pin it on him too but it was done jokingly so that was alright then.

None of them as far as I know had the guts to say sorry when it was eventually brought out in the open to be a story given to the Guardian by a wiki administrator who was a Tower Hamlets Lib Dem Activist who had no proof nor evidence . I may be wrong but I don't think he works for wiki any more, could be wrong.

Double check before you commit and putting a link up could get you in trouble if it is proved incorrect, as with the Guardian story. Just saying.

Just had a look at Jeremy Corbyn's plans for economic success and fairness. One paragraph particularly caught my attention.

"Talk of the ‘Northern Powerhouse’ is largely southern hot air. The pain of the cuts has been devolved, but power and prosperity remain tightly centralised.

I couldn't agree more.

Investment, growth and tax justice: Corbyn outlines economic vision & fairer taxes for Britain 2020

Oh I'm sure durhamjen told us he was currently married. So it must be true.

I think he has only had two wives so far the third seems to be Daily Mail reportage that may or may not be true.

Poor you TriciaF; it's not great if things are being switched.

Maybe the Wiki team are having fun.

No it's not right, but that's what seemed to me to be on Wiki at 2pm this afternoon. this is the current link:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn

Surely Yvette Cooper cannot be right?

Strangely enough, TriciaF, when I tried to find details of Corbyn's three marriages just now, the only wife mentioned now on Wiki is the second one, with whom he has three sons.

Very odd...it seems some censoring has been going on!

No good for me; can't get onto links and my computer has banned me from Wikepedia as well . I have to google all sorts of strange things to get to where I'm going. At least we now know that the disclaimer on Wiki that says what's written on it isn't gospel is right!