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petra Thu 30-Jul-15 20:15:02

When David Cameron used the word 'swarm' in relation the the migrants in Calais.
The media are doing their best to make me think that I should be. I keep thinking about it, and I'm not.

thatbags Fri 31-Jul-15 11:53:17

You can refer to me as part of a swarm of people any time you like, eloethan.

thatbags Fri 31-Jul-15 11:52:20

I think there has been a bit of swarming up and over fences at Calais by some of the swarm we're talking about.

Ana Fri 31-Jul-15 11:51:37

That's only one interpretation of the word, Eloethan. A swarm can also mean a moving crowd (of people).

thatbags Fri 31-Jul-15 11:51:24

One can swarm up a tree as well as across the English Channel.

soontobe Fri 31-Jul-15 11:45:56

[I can see that my post of 10.28am would have been better written as swarm of people].

soontobe Fri 31-Jul-15 11:39:01

I have never heard of swarm of people. It is not tongue in cheek.

Eloethan Fri 31-Jul-15 11:38:47

It is for some people easy not to be upset or offended by terms that don't apply to them or their families. If you were one of those people, however, you might not appreciate being likened to an insect.

soontobe Fri 31-Jul-15 11:36:27

I was really responding to TerriBull's post when she was talking about a swarm of people on the London Underground.

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 11:34:28

Yes Soontobe, we have all heard of the term.... swarms of people.You constantly ask these 'innocent' questions, I really think it's all tongue in cheek.

soontobe Fri 31-Jul-15 11:32:19

Gracesgran. I do think though it is impossible to get a person, any person, to be 100% perfect in words. And also since words have different meanings in different parts of any country.

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 11:31:03

grin Elegran.
I have always thought the weather would be better if they really tried harder.

soontobe Fri 31-Jul-15 11:29:50

I have never heard the term as regards people though annodomini? Have you?

Elegran Fri 31-Jul-15 11:28:51

For July read August - they can't even get the calendar right!

Elegran Fri 31-Jul-15 11:28:00

I wish the Tories would get a grip on the weather, it is so changeable at the moment, not at all like July. They are so careless about the comfort of their citizens - I bet it will fine for the glorious 12th, though!.

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 11:25:37

It wouldn't matter to me who had said it, from whatever party .

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 11:23:57

not careless or demonising, they are media frenzy words.

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 11:23:11

Oh come on GG, just another Tory dig!

Gracesgran Fri 31-Jul-15 11:14:59

Good point JBF. To me the issue is the demonising of groups. I would agree that this was more careless than by design but do I really want a careless PM? Add to that the track record of the Conservatives in demonising groups in order to appear to be the saviours of those who worry a little about those groups and I do think it is reasonable to challenge DC and for us to expect him to be more judicious with what he says.

Galen Fri 31-Jul-15 11:07:48

No!

Lilygran Fri 31-Jul-15 11:05:34

Spot on, nigglynellie. You have to be so worried about which words public figures use but you can ignore the meaning. Harriet's joining in the game of uproar again.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 31-Jul-15 11:04:35

We mustn't forget in the midst of all this, that many more immigrants settle in each of Germany, France and Italy, than ever come to the UK. So perhaps the word was a little hysteria inducing.

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 10:55:10

Agreed nigglynellie, just cheap point scoring, the equivalent of going ' nan na
Nana na!'

rosesarered Fri 31-Jul-15 10:53:51

It's all a load of rubbish, the media once again trying to decide things for us and whip up a bit of controversary. Most people would agree with the use of the word, not an insult to anyone, just a fact, there are swarms of people trying to come here.

nigglynellie Fri 31-Jul-15 10:47:33

As someone educated in a top public school, Harriet Harman knows perfectly well that referring to a swarm of people is a totally acceptable expression as defined in all dictionaries. To express such outrage is clearly ridiculous and makes her efforts to score political points, as that's all it can be, look completely pathetic. FGS, Labour go from bad to worse!

annodomini Fri 31-Jul-15 10:44:28

Where have you been all your life, soon? You must have heard of swarms of bees in the countryside and sometimes even in London! On the news, we sometimes hear of swarms of locusts destroying crops in developing countries. I've even encountered a swarm of ladybirds.