Cameron Shaming the Country

What do you think should be done Ana ? bombing Syria will not end this hell we are plunged into , perhaps talks wouldn't change a thing but surely worth trying ?

Sigh...

How about practising with a small nuclear bomb, then. Serve them right for being born in Syria.

So, we should just sit back and wait to be annihilated then? While Jeremy is wondering who to conduct 'talks' with first?

Russia, Saudia Arabia, China, America etc. No bomb or bullet is inscribed with - not to cause harm to a child or the oppressed

strikes

For a start, who would he 'engage in conversation'?

There isn't an acknowledged Leader of IS, there are factions all over the place who wouldn't necessarily want to talk or compromise - that doesn't seem to be their way of operating at all.

And I didn't suggest blowing Syria to bits. I just think it's sensible to preempt terrorist striked whenever possible.

No harming trying Ana, blowing Iraq to bits didn't work, why do you think it would in Syria?

It'll be interesting to see whether Corbyn's 'let's talk it over' approach goes down as well with the general population if he wins the Labour leadership contest as it appears to be doing with certain posters on here.

Blair denies it vigorously of course.

rosequartz - I don't think anyone on this thread disagrees with you putting responsibility on Blair and Bush for their part in the current melt down in the middle east

The first duty of any government is the protection, safety and security of its citizens from outside forces that wish us harm to the point of destruction which this force does. What do these people have to do to convince us that they do actually wish us harm to the point of that destruction? apart, that is from burning, beheading drowning, throwing off roof tops, rape, slavery, crucifixion, the horrendous list is endless, so at what point do you say that these poor people who are living in this nightmare actually need some help in the shape of eliminating these evil unbelievably cruel appalling creatures. A dead jihadist is a reason for celebration and having to obtain parliaments approval in this instance is downright ridiculous.

Yet Cameron is telling the truth rosequartz ?

Britain's aid budget, 2nd only to the US, whilst we are not perfect, we do a damn sight more than many other countries around the world. That's to those of you who hate the UK, particularly England. I guess you'll know who you are.

Well Blair and Bush sure as hell weren't telling the truth!

And are probably the two most culpable for the present crises.

If it later emerges that DC had stretched the truth a bit I would still be delighted that a terrorist was now a dead terrorist and no longer in a position to bring death and destruction to my country. Or is someone going to suggest that he was just over there visiting a sick relative......

Well Blair and Bush sure as hell weren't telling the truth! We can't know if DC is but the majority of the British public expect him to act for the greater good and in the interests of us, the general public. There will be another atrocity on European soil, possibly here, and when it comes I do hope those of you who are troubled by this traitor's death, will be slightly more bothered by any innocent loss of life that will occur at that time. Maybe not, as long as the correct protocol has been observed. That's what really matters!

I'd be interested to know why he thought of telling us about it in the middle of a speech on refugees.
Perhaps he will tell us tomorrow in the emergency debate.

I cannot see anything in the statement about refugees today that is new.
No new money; only 20,000 refugees over five years, and only from the camps in Syria.
I would have thought he could have done something about Calais to ease the situation there.

This makes me laugh.

He told MPs: “We will continue to show the world that this country is a country of extraordinary compassion, always standing up for our values and helping those in need.”

The country might be. The government isn't.

Like illegal invasions and wars for example.
No, we don't want that, it will just make things even worse.

I expect the government will expand on the evidence and reasons behind the killing of this individual.

I have no regard for Islamic state, or the IRA and don't need any reminder's about the threats and damage these people have caused. Despite this, as I listened to the news reports this afternoon, I confess that it reminded me of the reports of Weapons of Mass Destruction. I do hope I'm wrong and that there is clear evidence the man who was killed was indeed behind one planned attack this summer. As the attack was foiled, maybe we'll never know.

I repeat, I'm not defending anything that the dreadful Islamic State does but the last thing any of us need is our government to take action that with the benefit of hindsight can't be justified. Like illegal invasions and wars for example.

'there was no exchange, if there had been Cameron would have said'

If he had done, would you have believed him anyway?

Wow the claws are out

Some have been out for some time!

maybe the valleys of Wales are safe I think some of the IS members were from Cardiff, but not from anywhere near some posters on here (but a bit close to home for some of us!)

Wow the claws are out,

TerriBull, I think those three men were very brave and fully deserved the honour bestowed on them by France.

I am saying we don't know if Cameron is telling the truth ,