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The National Anthem

(162 Posts)
Eloethan Wed 16-Sept-15 00:32:51

It seems to me that if we call ourselves a democracy then anybody should be perfectly at liberty not to have to sing the national anthem. It is, in my opinion, a horrible dirge of a song anyway with ridiculous words that concentrate wholly on the monarch rather than on the country and its people.

There has been almost universal condemnation of Jeremy Corbyn for not singing words with which he does not agree. No doubt, if he had sung the national anthem there would have been a lot of sneering remarks about him being a hypocrite. Some people snigger at other countries for treating their leaders as if they were divine beings and yet it seems to me that many people in this country have a similarly strange attitude towards the monarch who is, after all, just another human being.

NotTooOld Wed 16-Sept-15 21:37:10

Yellow Submarine is easy to sing, let's have that.

rosesarered Wed 16-Sept-15 21:28:25

Not Britain?

Anniebach Wed 16-Sept-15 21:20:47

No rosesarered, I mean the UK

Rowantree Wed 16-Sept-15 21:17:03

But if you want rousing, there's always Tomorrow Belongs to Me.
That's the trouble with anthems....

Rowantree Wed 16-Sept-15 21:15:05

Alice the Camel is a good one

Rowantree Wed 16-Sept-15 21:14:21

Jerusalem? Ooooh, dodgy....

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 21:14:07

teg most of the wheels have fallen off so that is no good.

Tegan Wed 16-Sept-15 21:12:05

not much left really..and most people can't reach the high notes#yetanotherreasonwhyididn'tjointhewi. How about the Wheels on the Bus?

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 21:10:54

We couldn't have that anyway - it only refers to England! shock

rosesarered Wed 16-Sept-15 21:00:34

and the burning spear, and the arrows of desire and......

Tegan Wed 16-Sept-15 20:53:53

...and the Jerusalem bit as well, perhaps....

rosesarered Wed 16-Sept-15 20:51:10

How about the WI anthem? Maybe minus the dark satanic mills? grin

soontobe Wed 16-Sept-15 20:49:54

He certainly had something very much to do with it.

rosesarered Wed 16-Sept-15 20:49:43

you mean Wales?

Anniebach Wed 16-Sept-15 20:42:01

God didn't make this country mighty ,

absent Wed 16-Sept-15 20:17:06

I'm with Elgar re the words of Land of Hope and Glory. They suck.

Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set
God who made thee mighty make thee mightier yet

needs a bit more than tweaking.

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 19:59:06

I think we already have one, albeit it needs a bit of tweaking of the words in parts:

Land of Hope and Glory

A pity that cosmetics firm that sells soap has pinched it
(although I do like their shower cream)

Rowantree Wed 16-Sept-15 19:40:32

It's a National Anthem which has more to do with the monarchy than anything else. I dislike it for that reason. I don't give a stuff about the queen - she can call herself what she likes but I don't see why people should be expected to glorify the monarchy if they don't agree with it.
It's rubbish to suggest that those who won't join in with the singing of it are traitors and hate their country.
Maybe it's time for someone to write a new anthem! (I'm not volunteering, btw)

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 19:34:27

This gets funnier and funnier.
So - if he ever becomes PM will he refuse his weekly audience with HM?

Fuel for thought:
If it ever happens and he becomes PM, he could be in dire need of her sage advice.

I am beginning to feel so sorry for him. I do hope he will be OK, poor man.

merlotgran Wed 16-Sept-15 19:33:08

Anyone who doubts whether the National Anthem unites people in singing didn't watch the Last Night of the Proms.

I hope Jeremy Corbyn never gets his hands on that.

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 19:28:50

ps Gracesgran no-one ever sings all six verses of the National Anthem, and I have only ever known the first two sung. It's a red herring to mention the one about the Scots!

Most of the verses were of their time and not appropriate.

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 19:25:40

ps I haven't read all the thread, so I may be repeating what someone else has said.
No harm in me reiterating it, though.

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 19:24:31

Should he sing it?

I think so, then perhaps agitate for a new anthem on the lines I suggested above.

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 19:24:01

I agree, it is a dirge.
However, it is supposed to be the National Anthem which unites the country in singing an anthem to our Head of State. It's all we have at the moment for the whole of the United Kingdom.

I think England should have an anthem, Scotland should have an official one (Wales has a very good one), has NI? {not sure, please excuse me on that one}.

Perhaps we need a new anthem for Great Britain that encompasses all that is great - the country, the land, its people - and HM.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 19:17:14

He's a little upstart when you consider how long the UK Parliament has been in operation (which he seems to think he can change hmm)

#donttakeondear