Pig delivery to Downing St

Were you there jinglbellsfrocks ... in fact were any of you so how can you comment basically .... we are supposed to free in this country until the papers declare you guilty.

I believe it.

I do hate the way most people are believing this allegation with no corroboration whatsoever. Even the word "alleged" is appearing less and less - proving that the general opinion is, that if you say/hear something often enough, it becomes true.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned but this time it was a lord [ A] in the party who never got the top job ... nasty I call it.

I doubt most of us would rather not have our youthful antics written in book for public reading .... ouch

Not involving a pig, at any rate!

We don't know that there WAS any original misbehaviour by DC, in the first place!

This was a silly prank, as was DC's original misbehaviour.
What upsets me (apart from the poor pig being terrified) is the fact that this piggy thing is making headlines and causing a fracas, whilst Cameron's political and social wheeler dealings are far more harmful and worthy of derision.
He gets away with some pretty awful stuff, and all the while people are concentrating on his student stupidity. It has to be said, tho' that a student with his background, money and attitudes, would have been far more likely to behave disgustingly than your average hard working, loan-ridden undergrad!

tried that the site didn't take any notice thatbags thanks for your advice ... smile

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Some threads are not worth reading except the site sends me emails headlining it ... oh dear

I think what any of us have done in the past is the past but as for now Cameron should be putting our country first and not let other eu members walk all over him

Perhaps for another discussion thatbags on another thread, if you'd like to open one- happy to contribute. I do agree to a large extent (we only have had mongrel rescues).

We had a whole litter of squealing piglets in our house once, running around everywhere, including upstairs. Piglets squeal a lot.

Their mum was going crazy in her pen (from whence they'd escaped through a hole too small for her), so she was making a lot of noise too, though it was more grunty and growly that squealy, I seem to recall.

They weren't our pigs. They'd come quite a distance up the lane to get to our house. All were carried and safely delivered, still squealing, back to their mama. The noise subsided then.

We used to live up the road from a pig abbatoir.

If the wind was in the wrong direction we could hear squeals. They are not stupid animals.

Does anyone who says they hate the exploitation of animals include pets in their definition of exploitation? It is in a way, I think, because pets are mainly for the benefit of humans. I don't like to see overbred 'toy' dogs, for instance. I think that kind of overbreeding rather gross and definitely an 'exploitation'.

Like it, elegran

The delivery of a ready-to-roast rolled pork joint with stuffing through the middle would have been more subtle. Too subtle for the demonstrators and for the media circus, I suspect. No-one would even have noticed - they'd have thought it was the butcher's van.

I hate it when animals are exploited. Surely they had the wit to do something cleverer?

However, I would hope the abbatoir would be near to the farm where the pig has been outdoor reared in mud and sunshine. Sadly not always the case.

it's not just about the welfare of the young pig- but about the stunt being cheap, tacky and stupid- and very probably counter-productive.

Attack the man on his policies indeed, just not a clever or effective way to do it imho.

Eleothan abbatoirs are necessary - if we are to enjoy a Sunday roast dinner of delicious pork with crackling. The silly joke was not necessary.

There certainly would be ab.

Such concern for the welfare of the pig I feel assured there will be the same concern for the fox when our fox hunting PM and his party try to bring back fox hunting

I think it was a bit daft and possibly a little unfair on the pig - but not so stressful as an abattoir is likely to be.

Good, as I truly respect you. I thought they were anarchists too- my point is that some will picture them as 'typical new labour supporters'- for all the wrong reasons. The Labour party has to be very careful to distance themselves from this sort of stupid and vengeful behaviour. Radical politics, yes- but this is not helpful, at all imho.