The Conservative Conference

Fair enough.

I dont think I get it worse than other people Ana. Perhaps I am wrong. Plus gransnet told me ages ago to refer to them if things get too bad. Which I havent for ages.

And I do put my head above the parapet quite often.

I try and love people and I try not to have high expectations of others.

I am ok really. Thanks

Hopefully I am handling things in the right way.

Unfortunately the surface common sense of the immigration policy feeds into the views of those who want to keep everyone out. They have indeed made a mess of their immigration policies but still keep grinding on about how they are going to get it right...right in what way and when?

I do have a concern about the way that policies seem to be written on the back of envelopes without consultation with those in the know - e.g. doctors/nurses/teachers. The people on the ground are left to try and deal with policies that have superficial appeal but ignore the detail. e.g. how nice it would be to have 24 hour consultant cover in the NHS - great idea! - now have a chat with those doctors and find out how many hours they are already doing and work out how this can really happen - oh, I know, we will import some - oh, but we want to cut down on immigration. Reminds me of the hole in my bucket song!

Ah yes niggly let's look at the Home Secretary. Her called Theresa May, who in her speech described how immigration is undermining social cohesion, lowering wages, and contributing to higher unemployment.

But immigration has consistently risen since the Tories took office - so she has presided over a failed migration policy. It is at the highest level ever.
The Tories has totally failed in this policy.

No, and you don't have to just roll over and accept being insulted and sneered at, soontobe! You are letting yourself be an easy target for bullying behaviour...

I dont have to be fully up to date with everything.

Some of us are quite proud of what we've achieved here, niggly, thanks very much.

Nigglynellie. Don't worry about Soontobe. She won't know where North Korea is or what's going on there.
This is someone who missed the Volkswagen scandal.

But they are going to pinch Labour's idea and have an infrastructure tzar in the shape of Lord Adonis. So we will have the infrastructure, housing, railways, etc., or did you not see Osborne's speech, niggly.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/10/06/memo-to-lord-adonis/

We have to look at pension reform? Have they not already done that, or did he mean they got it wrong, and there are too many pensioners still alive so they have to reform it even more?

Just watching our friend Fox - just denied wanting cutting pensions, but wont agree that ring fencing pensions was the right thing to do - "we have to look at pension reform " he said.

Wants to go much further in cutting the deficit by perhaps cutting further those departments not ring fenced, which are being cut already by 30%.

Why don't some of you organise a protest and march in North Korea itself? Now that would be something to be proud about. Those poor people are crying out for people such as you to take up their cause for freedom, if anyone needs help on that front they certainly do. Not sure that their government would be very welcoming, but it would be a brave and noble thing to do. I agree with Theresa May, we do need controlled immigration, and should only accept people genuinely fleeing persecution, not economic migrants en masse, we haven't the room, enough housing or infrastructure, as Germany is realising to it's cost.

He wants to privatise them all. Apparently he never mentioned the Human Rights Act, which is strange, as it's a pet project of Cameron's, the reason Gove was given the job he was.

Can't wait to see a Full Fact of the Tory conference.
They've only done one of Teresa May's speech so far.

Now we have the zealot Gove wanting to reform the prisons. Apparently without reference to those working in the prisons.

His wife's Chinese. I wonder how many nurses are Chinese - those ones who are being sent home because their visas have run out and they do not earn £35,000.
I wonder how many junior doctors who have signed up to leave this country because of the way he treats the NHS are Chinese.

Bob. (O) Builder In thrall to Blair

See Osborne is keen to adopt a lot of Labours ideas in their manifesto, not sure he had any original ideas at all.

Apparently they want to change the working culture to reflec t Chinese working practice's - what charmers.

Thanks, petra, for your comments. Soon's okay, niggly. She said so. She'd just rather go back to a world before workers had rights, that's all. Unfortunately she will not be able to get away from the fact that some of the rights she possesses were gained by others marching for those rights.

If you think that's nasty, I hope you have listened to Teresa May today. That's what I call nasty, and Jeremy Hunt saying that those who have to have welfare benefits should just work harder. That's not what freedom was for, the freedom to work longer hours to make enough money to pay your rent and feed your families.

Wow, there's some horrid people on here! What a way to talk to somebody Nellie and petra. Why on earth should anyone be under any obligation to join in marches, sit ins, and other political activities if they don't want to, isn't that what democracy is all about, freedom to choose?!! . To tell someone that because of this they would make a good citizen for North Korea, and that basically they should defect to that unhappy country is inappropriate to say the least. I simply can't believe you've said that. No wonder left wing politics have such a nasty whiff about them.

If you're receiving offensive PMs, Anniebach, you should report them to GNHQ and block the sender.

soontobe You sound as if you would be a very contented citizen of North Korea. No political dissention no protests about civil rights.
You could go and join the regime. You would be feted, as they would consider a defection from the U.K. as a great propaganda coop.

some spend their time sending offensive and untruthful private messages , so finding links to share seems a pleasant way to spend time

I've only just come on the internet, absent, as I have a grandson to teach.
I have been teaching him English, computer programming, and about Ancient Greece and Athens today.
7, roseq, as my grandchildren arrive at 8. Then I walk my granddaughter to school, come back home with my grandson, then lessons begin.

Believe it or not, I do not look at GN first, either. However, reading about the Tory Conference, I came across that gem.
I had hoped that someone else would read it, roseq. Glad you appreciated it.
I only mentioned absent, as she had asked for a link earlier.

What do you do with your time, absent?

I'm with Durhamjen on her remarks to Soontobe.
"I just don't think in general that's the way to behave"
"To me marches involve large groups of people who are at best disgruntled"
"They never seem peaceful, and very antagonistic. And dare I say it bullyish"
I think she got off lightly with Jens remarks.

Dinner to cook?
Washing to do?
Shopping to fetch?

I think djen is one of those very organised people who get up at 6 am and have all their tasks done by 8 am. I have a friend like that
(which is when I am just coming to and drinking a cuppa, I should be ashamed of myself).