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Tory welfare cuts will impoverish 200,000 children next year and more than 600,00 in 2020

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Gracesgran Thu 08-Oct-15 21:49:08

The Resolution Foundation has found that Tory welfare cuts will impoverish 200,000 children next year and more than 600,00 in 2020.
Their report can be found here and starts:

Measures announced at the Summer Budget are expected to significantly increase the number of children (and households) living in poverty (households with less than 60 per cent of median income). Despite positive action on low pay, cuts to working age benefits mean that most of this increase is expected to be among those living in working households.

Their worry is that this will go unnoticed because "The Welfare Reform and Employment Bill removes the requirement on Government to meet the 2020 child poverty target established in the Child Poverty Act 2010."

durhamjen Sun 01-Nov-15 22:25:13

"The current false “truth” endlessly repeated by those who would benefit from its propagation, and by those who should know better, is that Labour governments are fiscally profligate and/or incompetent compared to other parties' governments.

We have therefore looked at the respective records of both Conservative and Labour governments over the recent decades, and find that on several key indicators, including budget deficits and surpluses, Labour governments have been on balance more fiscally “conservative” than Conservative or Conservative-led governments."

Whenever people want to attack Labour, they always say that the Tory government can be trusted more with the country's finances. Those two paragraphs are the opening paragraphs from this article.

www.primeeconomics.org/articles/taq30tk04ljnvpyfos059pp0w7gnpe

They have looked at Tory and Labour records since at least the 1970s, and in some cases before that.

It's a very long article with lots of graphs, for those who are interested.
However, the main point is that Labour governments always run the economy better than the Tory ones.
I wonder why the newspapers always tell us differently.

durhamjen Sun 01-Nov-15 16:45:09

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/work-and-pensions-committee/inquiries/parliament-2015/inquiry-name/

Run by Frank Field, who says that food bank use could be cut by a third if benefits were paid on time.
The next committee meeting is on 4th November.

Ana Sat 31-Oct-15 22:37:10

I agree with your last post, rosequartz. JC hasn't proved himself to be anything much yet.

durhamjen Sat 31-Oct-15 22:25:50

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tax-credits-private-debt-collectors-to-fetch-back-payments-made-in-error-a6716391.html

When HMRC or DWP make a mistake and overpay people's tax credits, they send round the bailiffs to get the money back.
The company they are paying to do this is Concentrix, an American agency.

This government really do not like British workers, do they?

rosesarered Sat 31-Oct-15 20:54:58

I agree with both your comments RQ grin

rosequartz Sat 31-Oct-15 19:19:28

No.

durhamjen Sat 31-Oct-15 16:13:13

You mean like Jeremy Corbyn?

rosequartz Sat 31-Oct-15 15:33:52

Frank Field always comes across as that rare thing - an honest politician with great integrity.

durhamjen Sat 31-Oct-15 15:27:54

www.independent.co.uk/voices/heres-the-full-spectacle-of-iain-duncan-smiths-dwp-horror-show-with-a-un-investigation-on-the-way-i-a6715146.html

durhamjen Sat 31-Oct-15 00:16:56

Twenty Tory Mps actually voted for Frank Field's motion to ask Osborne to look again. Nobody voted against the motion.

What I'd like to know is why seventeen of them voted with the government in the first place. If they had not, the Lords debacle would not have happened. Only three voted against the cuts in tax credit the first time in the commons.

durhamjen Fri 30-Oct-15 23:13:56

Here's an interesting idea. If a government lies to the electorate to win a general election, a new election should be called.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/29/manifesto-promise-broken-general-election-david-cameron-child-tax-credits

durhamjen Thu 29-Oct-15 23:10:16

Blackburn council has now decided to look into the scheme, because they had not seen the full implications of it.

rosequartz Thu 29-Oct-15 12:37:47

whitewave smile

whitewave Thu 29-Oct-15 07:24:19

Yesconfused

JessM Thu 29-Oct-15 07:17:44

Bit of a difference between a two million luxury apartment and an ill defined idea probably nicked from the US.

Whitewavel are you on the wrong thread?

whitewave Thu 29-Oct-15 07:04:36

Cameron's "Big Society" has got him in a muddle over one of his favourite charities. Apparently although he was warned time and time again by external auditors? Dave new best and continued to throw money without question at the charity.

durhamjen Thu 29-Oct-15 00:09:08

Really? Better tell Shelter, then.

rosequartz Wed 28-Oct-15 23:50:11

www.ourproperty.co.uk/guides/buying_a_loft_apartmentconverted_office_or_factory_space_.html

Living in a converted factory or loft is quite trendy I believe

durhamjen Wed 28-Oct-15 23:39:29

What's housing refugees got to do with this?
I do hope that when the refugees arrive, if they ever do, that they will have housing ready for them, and not have to fit out an old factory. They have enough difficulties getting here in the first place.
I noticed that Farron asked Cameron about taking 300 lone children from Europe. Cameron refused.

Ana Wed 28-Oct-15 22:05:22

What's happened to all the zeal about housing refugees from Syria? That was flavour of the month recently. Now it's cries of 'workhouse principles'...hmm

Ana Wed 28-Oct-15 21:58:45

Can't win with you, durhamjen! grin

durhamjen Wed 28-Oct-15 21:48:13

Good idea or not, it's still the principle of the workhouse.

It'll be interesting to see how it pans out, and whether they are paid proper wages for the work, or just used as apprentices.

rosequartz Wed 28-Oct-15 20:57:48

It was bought by Blackburn with Darwen Council — and now the borough’s ruling executive board has approved in principle its sale to the charity which helps marginalised people back into stable, independent living.

Well, that sounds like a good idea. Perhaps more disused buildings should be converted to help house the homeless.
Better by far than living on the streets, especially if we are in for a harsh winter.

durhamjen Wed 28-Oct-15 20:53:26

'The dictionary definition of ‘workhouse’ is “a place where those unable to support themselves were offered accommodation and employment”. Doesn’t that description fit the proposed new use of the Blackburn bus depot?'

Ana Wed 28-Oct-15 20:25:19

Under the scheme, up to 10 otherwise homeless people would live at the site under supervision.

No, it doesn't sound like a workhouse.