Families where no one has ever worked, nor wanted to, and claim all the benefits they can.

wat a snobissh message on that pm, how very dare they!Shunt be alowd.

Somehow, I do not think granjura is bothered about being banned.

Can anyone be permanently banned again?

I must admit, that is a pretty nasty pm, slurring a lot of us.
I do hope whoever it was, has been banned for life.
(Goes off dragging her hands on the floor.)

Again!

Not on, granjura. You'll get yourself permanently banned if you carry on like this.

Well the only bit of that ramble which made any sense was the zzzzzzzzzzzzzz so on that note

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Anya, how can you be sick to the back teeth of someone who hasn't been on for a month at least?

Have you really not reported a post before?

Maybe Anya just wants to get to 1000 posts quickly, granjura.

Don't bother Ana (but thanks anyway) she's not worth it. It's just too petty for words.

Who on earth would 'leave' GN in a huff and make such a mean-spirited comeback post?

Who on earth would write 6 x 1 liners in a row to attack a point of view, really?

Mamacaz, MPs quite often ask the DWP how much these enquiries cost.
The DWP, believe it or not, never have the figures.
There have been quite a few e-petitions asking for how much money has been wasted on the DWP changes.
Last week an MP asked about the cost benefit of the EU referendum. No answer.
Hunt and Lansley hid the report about how much the changes in the NHS would cost and whether it is value for money. The report has never been published.

So if you find out what you want to know, please let us know.

We only ever find out about anything through freedom of information requests. The government thinks we have too much freedom of information.

Though it's not something I usually do I am going to report this to GNHQ because, to be honest, I'm sick to the back teeth of this person.

Beware my 'attack post' about my dishwasher!

Ridiculous. Shame indeed...

Isn't it against GN guidelines to launch a personal attack and call someone a 'big bully' ?

Sometimes GN is beyond irony. Sigh's again.

She's talking about me Ana - I'm not allowed to have an opinion or voice anything against dearest DJ

Oh Jura shame on you.

Eh?

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www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/02/28/the-adam-smith-institute-is-now-willing-to-argue-that-those-on-benefits-are-genetically-different-to-the-rest-of-us/

I hope none of you are on benefits. If you are, do not read this link.

"People believe 27 per cent of benefit claimants are committing fraud, when the real figure is just 0.7 per cent. In the case of sickness/disability benefits, it’s 0.4 per cent.

Why do people believe this? They get it from the media – from papers like the Express and the Mail, and TV shows like Benefits Street and all the other “poverty porn” programming.

And where do the media people get their ideas? From the Conservative Government – of course.

Boil it all down and you get a “make-work” scheme in which the Conservative Government – through the media – creates an atmosphere of distrust against people on benefits, especially the sick and disabled, leading to an escalating number of inaccurate allegations of fraud against claimants.

That’s why Mr Farron’s comment is important, even though he’s partially mistaken.

The idea isn’t to turn people against the welfare state.

It’s to turn people against the sick and the disabled. Divide and rule."

Completely wrong, Anya, as usual.
Why do you say I dismiss it as pin money?
I think it ought to be debated in Parliament, that the DWP have got it completely wrong.
They are demonising people who claim fraudulently by making it appear that it is far worse than it is, that's what I mean.
I think there should be a fuss made because there is more money not paid by the DWP.
IDS has made a hash of the department. He's made a hash of everything in the department, and demonised all claimants.
It is worth making a fuss about.
140,000 claimants have lost their motability vehicles. 60% of the claims are overturned.

There is something completely wrong about the way the DWP is run. It needs to be looked at. Any new information that comes into the public domain about this department is relevant and important.

The DWP would want people to have your point of view on this. It will let them carry on with the shambles.

£180 million. So if hardly anyone is fiddling benefits, a very small number are fiddling quiet a lot. Or have I missed something, I never was very good at maths, it would be easy to confuse me with figures if they wanted to.