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Remembrance Day Ceremony

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Devorgilla Fri 23-Oct-15 22:22:12

This is to be cut short because of the age of the Queen and other Veterans. Fair enough! They are getting on a bit...BUT why should only David Cameron have the right to lay a wreath as a Government Official? Don't know about you but I take exception to this in the Year of the Somme. The majority of dead and injured were from the working class so why do we deny other parties more representative of that group the right to lay the wreath? By all means make life easier for her Majesty but let all parties be represented. It is important to me and I think a lot of other people who knew families whose men never came home. You were wrongly advised on this Your Majesty and should reverse the decision.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:52:23

HQ is offering hot chocolate and not wine so as not to turn us all into a bunch of old drunkards. Quite right too.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:45:35

So, first the PM was going up first with his. Then the others were going to all shuffle up together with theirs. But they said that's not fair, so now they are going to go up separately. But the royals, apart from the Queen, will all go up together.

Sorted then. hmm

nigglynellie Sat 24-Oct-15 19:40:30

Alea, you totally hit the nail on the head, that is exactly what this ceremony is about, so there's no more to be said. They are all old codgers now, but they weren't always like that, and imo they deserve to be acknowledged and respected, from WW1 to Afghanistan.

Alea Sat 24-Oct-15 19:34:31

Oh thank goodness GNHQ , the low calorie, low fat version. Phew!! grin

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 19:34:17

The first page of this thread would do, jingl! grin

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:33:52

Oh! Poor Queen. sad

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:33:17

blush I will go and read a newspaper Ana.

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 19:32:40

And it's not being cut short now because the SNP objected. So that's all right then...

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:32:11

I want the hot chocolate. And the sweeties separately.

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 19:31:58

jingl, I think you've missed a lot...no of course it's not just the PM!

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:31:05

Perhaps Jeremy C doesn't want to do it. You know what he's like. hmm

JulieGransnet (GNHQ) Sat 24-Oct-15 19:30:54

Not at all. I save the hot chocolate for the best people because I lace it with cherry brandy, swirly cream, a flake, mini marshmallows and small pieces of fudge. It's certainly not for 'old dears' shock

Alea

GNHQ. Why not winewine??
Is this a new austerity measure?
Hot chocolate is all very well for old dears.. . . . . . shock

Alea Sat 24-Oct-15 19:30:36

Oh fat finger syndrome
"Does it matter....?"

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:29:29

So, is it only the PM laying a wreath? Why can't they all walk up together and put their wreaths down?

Alea Sat 24-Oct-15 19:29:17

"Those who fell, those who fought, those who survived, the families of all ex servicemen and women, those who served in the ambulance or fire watching services" Where do you draw the line?
I think what we should be remembering is the readiness which those people showed in the face of danger, to make their country's service their priority.
Service is no longer a popular concept but when I see those frail old codgers (no disrespect!!) and think of their incredible bravery and resilience, I feel truly humbled.
It is a Service of Remembrance, some of us will remember family members who are no longer with us. Others, those who have to live with the legacy of fighting or imprisonment. Dies it matter? For this period, if for no other "We will remember them".

Alygran Sat 24-Oct-15 19:28:02

Representatives of commonwealth countries lay their tributes in groups. I thought that the proposal was for politicians (and some members of the Royal Family?) to do the same. Really shocked that this could cause so much bad feeling?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:25:26

I thought they've cut it short because the Queen and the veterans are knocking on a bit now. Quite understandable I would have thought.

thatbags Sat 24-Oct-15 19:24:56

Walks onto the thread, looks around, thinks Good Grief, exits.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 24-Oct-15 19:23:54

Ooh! You've been told off on this thread, and I haven't been reading it! shock grin

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 19:23:31

So how would cutting a few minutes off the Service affect your ability to do that, Anniebach?

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 19:21:31

Ceesan, you explain what Remembrance Sunday means to you , to me it means remembering the dead of wars and conflicts

Alea Sat 24-Oct-15 19:14:31

GNHQ. Why not winewine??
Is this a new austerity measure?
Hot chocolate is all very well for old dears.. . . . . . shock

Ceesnan Sat 24-Oct-15 19:14:25

The veterans survived, it is not a service for them, it is for the dead. That remark sounds completely dismissive to me. There were also a couple of other comments too, but as the posts have already been deleted I can't quote them. I would take issue too, with the remark about the day not being for the veterans - why do you think so many people stay long after the service to applaud as they march past?

nigglynellie Sat 24-Oct-15 19:12:17

The Queen was too young to fight in the war, her father too old. She did however join the AT S at 17, something a lot of young women, including my mother did during this period. Prince Phillip was a serving Officer on a fighting ship, Earl Mountbatten, again too old to fight, was heavily involved in the direction of the war, The Kings brother, The Duke of Kent was killed during the war. I don't think that's a bad war record for any family, and I think gives HM the right to attend this ceremony with pride.

JulieGransnet (GNHQ) Sat 24-Oct-15 19:04:55

flowers Evening. We're just here to bring offerings of cake and wine hot chocolate. It's an emotive topic, but, if some of you could remember our lovely talk guidelines before hitting 'POST MESSAGE', we'd be eternally grateful.