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Remembrance Day Ceremony

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merlotgran Fri 23-Oct-15 23:50:06

I don't think you've opened a can of woms, Devorgilla I just think you're talking rubbish.

Devorgilla Fri 23-Oct-15 23:45:56

Apologies Nelliemoser you are quite right about the date. I took my info from a usually reliable source without checking.
I think my main complaint is that Cameron will lay a wreath on his own. This seems like an ego trip to me for a ceremony which is much more serious. I can appreciate them wanting to save the Queen discomfort but doubt it would have deterred her mother. I doubt too that anyone would begrudge her a seat for most of the ceremony save the wreath laying. After all she has compromised for age for the Trooping of the Colour. I cannot for the life of me see why Cameron and the other political leaders cannot lay their wreaths together to save time. I also cannot see why Prince Harry cannot take over this role. He has after all seen the most active service of late. Perhaps this is another argument for the demise of the hereditary monarchy in favour of an elected President young enough to perform all duties. Or have I opened another can of worms?

Anniebach Fri 23-Oct-15 23:43:35

The day is not for the queen and veterans , it is for the countries of the Commonwealth to pay tribute to the dead of wars

Alea Fri 23-Oct-15 23:29:45

My recollection is that the leaders of the main political parties lay their wreaths together, so how is this going to differ significantly? I will admit this is the first I had heard of it, so I am prepared to be corrected. I also believe the Royal party leaves after the "main" ceremony and the lengthy wreath laying by all the ex-Service organisations continues after they have gone.

Ana Fri 23-Oct-15 23:11:45

It's also for the benefit of the veterans who'll be attending.

Anniebach Fri 23-Oct-15 23:00:46

Fair enough, but is it right the service which is tribute to the dead be shortened because of the queens age? It is not a service for the queen.

Ana Fri 23-Oct-15 22:53:46

'The changes will see the leaders of the opposition parties and some members of the Royal Family lay their wreaths together rather than individually.'

Hardly earth-shattering stuff...hmm

Anniebach Fri 23-Oct-15 22:42:36

I didn't know of this , so the usual royals will lay wreaths but not politicians who were elected by the people ? Is this so?

Ana Fri 23-Oct-15 22:41:52

The decision to shorten the ceremony was announced today.

I don't see why the current PM shouldn't lay a wreath as a government official, whatever one thinks of his party's policies.

Nelliemoser Fri 23-Oct-15 22:38:10

The battle of The Somme started in 1/7/1916.
I have not heard about any plans to change this
I am sure HM could leave sooner without disgrace. I do feel sorry for her having to stand about at the cenataph in November at 89yrs. I wonder how many veterans would still like to attend.

Devorgilla Fri 23-Oct-15 22:22:12

This is to be cut short because of the age of the Queen and other Veterans. Fair enough! They are getting on a bit...BUT why should only David Cameron have the right to lay a wreath as a Government Official? Don't know about you but I take exception to this in the Year of the Somme. The majority of dead and injured were from the working class so why do we deny other parties more representative of that group the right to lay the wreath? By all means make life easier for her Majesty but let all parties be represented. It is important to me and I think a lot of other people who knew families whose men never came home. You were wrongly advised on this Your Majesty and should reverse the decision.