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Attacks in Paris

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LyndaW Fri 13-Nov-15 21:38:34

Watching the news and there have been 2 separate incidents in Paris (one explosion near a football ground and one shoot out at a restaurant.). 4 dead so far. So awful. What is happening?

Ana Mon 16-Nov-15 19:04:59

And now I've fallen into the trap again...I'm off!

Ana Mon 16-Nov-15 19:03:48

Exactly. And no one 'rubbished' or 'dismissed' anyone else's views.

Several people felt the same as rosesarered about the Christianity debate being carried on between soontobe and Anniebach being inappropriate for this thread.

Some people just seem to like stirring up trouble! hmm

janeainsworth Mon 16-Nov-15 19:02:55

Lily Do you mean terrorism is rooted in the intolerance of the terrorists, or the intolerance of those who don't accept in their society people of different beliefs to themselves, giving an excuse to the terrorists for their actions? Or both?
How can those who want to live their lives in peace decide when enough has been tolerated, and lines should be drawn? I don't know the answer to that and don't expect you to, but it is part of the question of how society can rid itself of terrorism without fuelling it.

rosesarered Mon 16-Nov-15 18:59:16

And we were trying to move on here btw.

rosesarered Mon 16-Nov-15 18:58:05

In case you missed it lilygran it was not only me that found all the bible bits intrusive.They detracted from the thread which was about the Paris atrocity as you well know.They... soontb and anniebach often spar about their Christian beliefs , and although nothing was stopping them, if they felt it was important,to continue on this thread,soontb decided not to, and to continue it on her other more religious minded thread.anniebach decided to keep on ( and on and on) which was also her choice.Nothing at all to do with 'rubbishing' Christian views actually!Time and place.

granjura Mon 16-Nov-15 18:49:23

Hear, hear- sadly far too rare on GN.

Lilygran Mon 16-Nov-15 18:48:00

Rosesarered the root of the terrorist movement is intolerance. It is intolerant to rubbish and dismiss other people's views. It implies your views and opinions are of more value than the ones you object to. And therefore, that you do not value the people whose views you deride. Failure to recognise other people have value is the basis of intolerance. Everyone has the right to express their opinion, however foolish or misguided you may think it is. Come up with a genuine refutation, embark on a genuine argument, express some real opinions.

rosesarered Mon 16-Nov-15 18:21:25

Listening to radio a bit earlier, it does seem that almost all ( if not all) of the terrorists were French or Belgian citizens.

rosesarered Mon 16-Nov-15 18:18:49

soontb smile
Alea have no fear, HQ did Not tell me, or anyone else not to post our viewsgrin
Let us Please get back to the thread.

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 18:00:26

I accept you chose to stop posting your religious views here soon, my complaint was you were told to. That you choose to speak of God in a space allocated to him is a pity though

soontobe Mon 16-Nov-15 17:52:16

I moved threads of my own accord, as this is not a religious thread.

I agree that there is a place for it here up to a point, but I thought it time to relocate most of it onto the religious topic.

Elegran Mon 16-Nov-15 17:45:21

Then have the grace to stop anyway. You are flogging a dead horse on a thread about more serious deaths.

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 17:35:50

No , not needed, and my point is not feeble,

Elegran Mon 16-Nov-15 17:28:16

Unless you'd like a Kalshnikov in your hands, to make sure that you make your feeble points more emphatically!

Elegran Mon 16-Nov-15 17:27:25

And STOP

Elegran Mon 16-Nov-15 17:27:02

STOP

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 17:24:06

Why?

Ana Mon 16-Nov-15 17:23:14

Ana, are you saying soon should not be given a reply because you disapprove of her post and any reply to her ?

hmm

Elegran Mon 16-Nov-15 17:22:24

STOP in the name of peace.

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 17:20:59

I did not say you said it Ana, I asked if it was what you meant

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 16-Nov-15 17:20:53

I think I may have perfected the art of skimming over posts that don't grab me as being interesting in the first instance. shock

Elegran Mon 16-Nov-15 17:19:35

STOP - all of those arguing about unimportant side issues. We should not be fighting amongst ourselves.

Alea Mon 16-Nov-15 17:19:30

No it is not much better, she has been stopped from posting her views on this thread, better for you rosesarered because you have had things your way but unfair on soon who has felt she had to move to another thread

Is this true? GNHQ have told a member to stop posting her views on this thread??
That seems a bit draconian even if some people felt that the thread had been derailed meandered rather far from the original post. But if I remember aright, Soontobe herself said quite early on that she thought certain questions might warrant a different thread on a different day which struck me as perfectly reasonable at the time.

There have been some people who have persisted in pursuing other areas which many of us felt inappropriate at the time. And got shot down in flames for it were duly put in our place sad

Ana Mon 16-Nov-15 17:19:21

Talk about twisting what's actually been said...

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 16-Nov-15 17:18:59

Oh we all know what we mean when we talk about Muslims. You are splitting hairs.

I have been back over thread as far as noon yesterday. Can't find any religious quotes. And cup of tea cold. hmm