Why isn't there the same sympathy for Kenyan attacks?

Petra

Yes it is but it still has some more interesting news coverage at times than the BBC and others.

One could say the same about Aljazeera, The Guardian, The Telegraph. (BBC ) You take them all with a pinch of salt , look for what is not being said and follow the story up if your interested don't you.

I expect RT to be biased, it is state owned.

I so agree these people have suffered badly too and very little mentioned they have all my sympathy poor people ....

Just to add.

I have been surprised on various vacations in the UK how free view stations are not available in all areas.

Sorry I should have said I meant the Aljazeera website, although we do have the TV channel and yes I do mean RT for propaganda. I keep seeing photos of Putin in the space where adverts should be (can't remember what he was promoting) and that's a bit weird to me. I don't watch that much news on TV, mainly because I have either heard it already on the radio or read it online during the day. Might have a look at the Aljazeera channel now though.

I would hazard a guess Russia Today.

I have mentioned before I find it is good for news but there is an element of propaganda re some countries and I think you can pretty much work that out at the time. I don't think it sets out to deceive but there is hardly ever a negative story about Russia, It is what is NOT said that gives the game away.

For example do you watch Sputnik presented by George Galloway, it fascinates me but so obviously anti the present government at times. The UK M.P's that are interviewed seem to let their guard down and say some very interesting things. The likes of Jeremy Corbyn , Dianne Abbott etc have given a good insight into how they tick !

I just find it a poor situation that the T'V news coverage is there but the UK channels repeat twaddle half the time when there is so much interesting current news being aired on other channels.

Or do you mean the propaganda is possibly on RT?

Confused Wilma by you twice using 'reading' - are you reading subtitles?

I tune into to the English speaking Aljazeera based in London. Aljazeera news does not offer propaganda in fact I'd say it's news reporting is very unbiased and straightforward.

A lot of the stuff I post I read first on Aljazeera, but I am just getting to know RT. I do admit though I am never quite sure if I am reading propaganda or not.

POGS I agree that Aljazeera is the best station for good news coverage.

There are many, many reports on there which never even get a mention on the BBC, reports of events which ought to have coverage. The events in Yemen for example were available on Aljazeera weeks before they had a brief mention on any UK channel.

I wonder how many of us tune into Aljazeera and if not, why not?

As you have asked soon.

No I have no theory. It is simply noticeable that the coverage is weaker in content here especially on overseas news. I am making a point about T.V coverage rather than in print or on the web.

Take for example the BBC . It has started to put the Victoria Derbyshire show on the 24 hour BBC news channel . Why? Victoria Derbyshire is also on at the same time on BBC 2. Because of it today Sky aired speeches from Osborne at GCHQ (relevant to present events) , the BBC gave it some air time but not as much as it went back to her program. Russia Today showed Putin doing a live phone conference with his heads of service from the navy, airforce and army (relevant to present events). Sky showed a bit of it later and discussed it but I don't think the BBC did .The BBC coverage is very often behind Sky for breaking news and both of them roll the same old repetitive news for hours on end. Aljazeera is more spontanious in keeping up with events and has a diverse coverage of world news.

Aljazeera for example had the Boko Haram kidnapping of the school girls days before we heard about the story here, why, poor journalism. If other news stations see what is happening surely the likes of the BBC can do the same, lord knows they have enough correspondents/journalists .

I recently returned from a holiday to Lanzarote and the only english channel was the BBC World Service. It was dire. We learnt more by watching the French, German and Spanish channels about world news and we don't speak a lot of their language.

Might I just add the UK news is dire for world news , excluding Aljazeera and RT Today which is a tad anti British at times and journalism is getting lazier and lazier.

Do you mean journalism here, or elsewhere as well?
And do you have a theory?
I sort of noticed a difference perhaps 10 or 15 years ago.

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People say things aren't reported and yet I, who have no telly and hardly ever listen to radio news, read about the things people say aren't reported. How come? Because they are reported and of you are eclectic enough in your news reading you can keep up with what's happening. It's a choice.

I do not know what is reported/gossiped about celebrities because I purposely avoid such news as usually of little interest to me. That's a choice too.

You can find out stuff if you want to. Wish people'd stop complaining.

The air fares to Paris have gone right down. But I'm not brave enough. It's going to be bad for their Xmas market industry.

Probably because the whole of the police force, army and security forces are on alert in Paris and it could well be the safest place to visit at the moment.

Unfortunately, other places may not have the resources to do the same.

There has been no Travel Advisory from the Foreign Office for Paris. It's the Travel Advisories that really kick a country when they are down. Long before the university atrocity in Kenya, and no terrorist event had triggered a reaction, the Foreign Office placed a Travel Advisory on the Kenyan coast, which it has only just lifted for the northern part of the coast 18 months later. During those months the whole of the Kenyan coast tourist industry has suffered a catastrophic decline, with the majority of hotels closed and thousands put out of work. No doubt the same is happening in Tunisia, and Sharm-el-Sheik - but those events involved the killing of tourists. Unfortunately whilst Isil and their side-kicks function, I can only see this happening again and again - so the terrorists win.

Many of the attacks mentioned - not Paris of course - are carried out against Christians by Muslim extremists. One thing that is hugely under-reported in the British press is the persecution of Christians around the world. France, while a far more secular - I would say profoundly unbelieving - country, is very good at reporting these things in mainstream news. Think about Nigeria, where Boko Haram's main target is Christians. Still in Africa, Al-Shaabab targets Christians in Somalia and neighbouring Kenya. IS (I prefer to call them Daesh) beheaded the Egyptian Christian workers and targets the few Christians left in Iraq and Syria. There is much, much more, right round the world. I wonder if it is considered politically-incorrect to report this?

I agree with the link thatbags too.

I remember starting a thread on the attacks on Yemin a while ago, I think there were only about 6 gransnetters posted! Proves a point maybe?

Might I just add the UK news is dire for world news , excluding Aljazeera and RT Today which is a tad anti British at times and journalism is getting lazier and lazier.

I can definitely see where people are coming from when they ask about attacks further afield. But I'm not sure they are right. I for one, was horrified at the suicide bombers in Beirut. And I cringe every time I hear of people being blown up in Afghanistan or Iraq. And I don't for one moment think I'm alone.

In that blog, is he actually saying that London is not a "great European city"? I think it is mate!

I think I heard on the news there were three security people who stopped them entering. And they are being hailed as heroes. Quite rightly.

I wondered about that too Grabba - it was a miracle that hardly anyone was killed at the Stade. Had those three gunmen/suicide bombers gained entry it death toll would have been very much worse.

Well done that person!

Will the chap who stopped the suicide bomber entering the football stadium get the same accolade as those who tackled thd gunman on the train? I would like to think so.

I meant the blog sums it up well.

I'm not sure about the tweet. I see the point, but it does sound rather callous.