Tory Party Bullying

And anyway, my post made no judgment about the matter, unlike most of the rest of this thread, including posts by you, dj.

And including the Guardian article in the OP! So back off with your bloody virtue signalling, please!

Yes, I'm annoyed because I am much MUCH more careful not to be judgmental than you are, dj.

The OP was three months ago, bags.
You chose to bring the subject up again.
What I am saying is it could be subjudice.
The report was leaked.
There is really no need to be quite so rude.
Are you not judging me?

Just read a report, thatbags is correct, there is far more to this sad case than meets the eye, any bullying is only a part of it, if there were any .The suicide attempts went back years.

It has been acknowledged by the Father that his son had some mental health problems.

Cases like this are usually not as simple as they first appear.

Many threads are ' resurrected' are they not!

If there is more to add then I will agree with the Speaker's mantra. 'I want to her what so and so has to say". "I want to hear what thatbags has to say"

If threads are 'resurrected' just to keep an argument going or in a lot of cases for someone to continue trying to prove a point he/she is an orical/smart ass then they are a turn off.

I'm judging judgmentalism that I see in some posts and in the title of the Guardian article in the OP.

And I mean unnecessary judgmentalism, that which seems a bit 'previous' or unpleasantly partial, not the kind that judges certain things to be wrong. Witholding judgment about practices such as FGM would be wrong in my view, for instance.

And, of course, any bullying of Elliott Johnson was wrong and should be judged so and dealt with, but my thread 'resurrection' was simply adding some facts that, until I read them the other day (was it yesterday?), I didn't know, and which to my mind questioned the statement in the Guardian title on how the young man had been "destroyed".

The article seems to have been removed from the Telegraph website.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3464962/Tatler-Tory-victim-rowed-parents-gay-Activist-suicide-sparked-bullying-scandal-battled-depression-years-police-report-finds.html

For anyone who wants to read it.

thatbags

My post re 'ressurecting' was not addressing your post which was a perfectly reasonable point to mention. [peace emoticon]

Well without any help from us, this story is about to walk again because the inquest is coming up this month.

And at last the inquest has been held and found that the poor young man killed himself. We should start wondering when we will hear from the Tory party enquiry into these events, if ever.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-36417699?ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter

How about ... Let it rest in peace ( this thread) ?

So it can happen again?

It's going to be part of the Tory election fraud enquiry. He was involved in that.

I hope the bullying is investigated separately. I'm fed up with people getting away with all sorts of wrong-doing and then creeping back into another well-paid job as soon as the outcry has died down. It really is about time people in high office were accountble for what they do and pay the price if they overstep the mark. Bullying is a hateful activity which can scar a person's life and we should stop turning a blind eye.

PS. What happened to Lucy Allan?

Grant Shapps has already lost his job as joint chair of the Tory party and Mark Clarke kicked out of the party. But does this stop it happening again?
I'm not sure the parents of the young man are ready to let it rest rosesarered? We may hear more from them. They may want to know who else was sanctioning the bullying and harassment that went on. And do you think it's OK if political parties behave to their workers and volunteers in a way that would not be either legal, or, tolerated, in a normal workplace?
Nobody is forcing you to re-join the discussion.

I know people often don't like links, but I thought I'd share this from today's Times. It's an article plus the suicide Elliott Johnson wrote to his parents.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/17/inquiry-into-tory-bullying-scandal-finds-13-alleged-victims-of-mark-clarke

That is dreadful.
I have realised that some bullies will deny and deny, no matter how much evidence there is.

And some people downplay or turn a blind eye to it.