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Welshwife Wed 02-Dec-15 16:46:10

As I was teaching I was opted out of the SERPS part of the State pension - not the normal NI contributions - I was a few years short due to not working when the children were small but I did have to pay Graduated pension payments and also Earnings related so the small amount I receive from those takes my State pension to just about the full state pension level. I am very surprised that your pension is being cut or is it something to do with the new state pension being the much higher one when you start to receive it?

Jane10 Wed 02-Dec-15 15:51:27

I didn't knowingly contract out and have paid full NI and superannuation contributions. Can only assume my NHS employers did it. Don't worry I won't starve but it just seems yet another thing I wasn't expecting.

Riverwalk Wed 02-Dec-15 15:13:32

I hope you're right chelseababy but as far as I understand it the new pension will be based on opted-in years.

chelseababy Wed 02-Dec-15 14:26:27

I don't think they count for nothing. I've been opted out all my working life but I will, eventually, get a state pension. It just won't be a full one.

Riverwalk Wed 02-Dec-15 11:32:30

Yes Tanith that's what it means but during those opted-out years (14 in my case) we were paying a slightly reduced National Insurance contribution, whilst contributing to a private pension, but those years count for nothing when assessing how much government pension we will get.

If we were paying NO national insurance during opt-out I could understand those years not counting but it's unfair that not only will women my age, 61, wait an extra six years for the pension but any opt-out years count for nothing.

tanith Wed 02-Dec-15 11:23:21

Jane10 having opted out at some point does that not mean you will have something to come from another company/private pension? I'm not very up on how it works but thats how I though it worked if you opted out to pay another pension contribution.

loopylou Wed 02-Dec-15 11:05:09

Oh bugger Jane10, that really is a bummer. Can you query that?
I dread these Pension letters.
I've another 31/2 years to go and sometimes wonder if I'll ever get there.
Signing all the petitions I can but I don't imagine for one second that'll change anything.

Jane10 Wed 02-Dec-15 10:04:29

I just got my pension statement. Apparently I have paid enough in the way of NI contributions to have a full state pension BUT apparently I contracted out at one point- God knows when. I was never aware of having done so- I will lose about a third of what they say the full amount is. This is after springing the 6 year delay in paying it anyway. Sigh. Nothing is what is promised these days it seems.

annsixty Wed 02-Dec-15 08:33:26

Today's DT has a news item which gives these levels as a % of today's average wage and not as former salary. I haven't yet worked this out as to ad/disadvantage. Morning tea hasn't kicked in yet.

whitewave Wed 02-Dec-15 08:00:48

UK pension is the lowest of any big economy. Only Mexico and Chile have worse pension level.

So as a % of former salary.
UK 38.3%
Japan 40.4%
Ireland 42.2%
US 44.8%
Australia 58%
Denmark 56.4%
France 66.9%
China 80.5%

We certainly deserve our free bus passes and winter fuel allowances!