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Like Father Like Son?

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trisher Thu 03-Dec-15 13:21:57

As Hilary Benn is acclaimed for his speech supporting the bombing in Syria I couldn't help wondering about his father and his constant stance on upholding peace. His speech is still the most moving and still has relevance today www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/02/syria-vote-airstrikes-tony-benn-iraq-speech_n_8700306.html
Is this just a case of a son trying to outdo his father by taking the opposite viewpoint?

rosequartz Sun 06-Dec-15 12:59:44

New caravans have portapottis too, not just old ones
Last post was in answer to the above blush

rosequartz Sun 06-Dec-15 12:59:05

Yes, I suppose they do, we haven't had a caravan for about 15 years. The last site we went to you could hook up to all services (like the Speaker, I suppose grin)

trisher Sun 06-Dec-15 11:13:46

There is such a thing as a "Policeman's friend"- known on Wiki as a "Stadium Buddy"- thats Americanisation for you. I was always told they were used when on long stake-outs by the police- but this may not be true!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_buddy

whitewave Sat 05-Dec-15 22:16:23

It used to get very hot though - the toilet tent- oh! I so miss our caravan

Elegran Sat 05-Dec-15 22:13:57

Ours was in a tiny toilet cupboard with no light. We were OK as we were familiar with it and could find our way in the dark, but a friend who was visiting was in there for ages - we were waiting to hear the tinkle. I think he was afraid his aim wouid fail in the dark so his bladder seized up. He should have just sat down.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Dec-15 22:08:48

Of course, on a wet day the toilet roll went all soggy.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Dec-15 22:07:42

We used to have a Portapottie in our caravan. And a toilet tent. Wish we still had it. sad It was nice sitting there on a sunny morning with the zip half down, watching the bees in the hedgerow. [sigh]

Elegran Sat 05-Dec-15 21:49:25

Maybe he has trousers like Billy Connolly ( New caravans have portapottis too, not just old ones RQ . portapottis )

rosequartz Sat 05-Dec-15 21:21:19

Perhaps he sits on one of those Porta Pottis that you can use in old caravans grin

Ana Sat 05-Dec-15 21:09:26

He wouldn't dare risk missing anything, rose!

rosequartz Sat 05-Dec-15 21:06:09

Doesn't he have a Deputy who could relieve him (no pun intended) occasionally?

whitewave Sat 05-Dec-15 21:06:01

Perhaps the speakers seat is a comode?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Dec-15 21:03:30

I think the country should demand answers. We need to know.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Dec-15 21:01:34

I wonder if he walked funny when he got up and left the chamber. Having his equipment to take with him. Mind boggles!

whitewave Sat 05-Dec-15 20:59:14

Apart from anything else DVT could be an issue. Perhaps he wore flight socks.

rosequartz Sat 05-Dec-15 20:55:31

It was very funny grin

But would the tinkling make a noise?
I suppose you wouldn't notice in that bear garden

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 05-Dec-15 20:54:10

They did mention tubes on HIGNFY. shock

Ana Sat 05-Dec-15 18:35:08

You're not suggesting....? shock

whitewave Sat 05-Dec-15 18:32:04

I do wonder if it is possible to go so long without a wee?

Ana Sat 05-Dec-15 18:28:11

Which reminds me of reports at the time that soldiers who took part in the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony were issued with nappies because they were not allowed toilet breaks - and that was only for 6-7 hours!

thatbags Sat 05-Dec-15 18:15:08

Lowering the tone somewhat... I neither like nor dislike the Speaker of the HoC. I am indifferent to his personality. I admire his ability to sit through eleven hours straight and I admire his stickability. I could not do that. I'd have to wear a nappy if I could not go for a wee or several, not to mention needing refreshment in the form of food and drink. Even if I could do the sitting part, there's no way I could concentrate for that long without a break.

Well done that man.

Ana Sat 05-Dec-15 18:10:02

Thank you POGS.

thatbags Sat 05-Dec-15 18:09:19

Thank you, pogs, for that true account of what happened after the vote.

POGS Sat 05-Dec-15 18:05:47

The clapping and cheering took place after Hilary Benn's speech , BEFORE the vote had taken place so the clapping was NOT because they had voted for action in Syria.

When the vote was announced by the Speaker it was heard in total silence!!!

Labour MP Jess Phillips put's it best.

"Just for the record of history which is being misrepresented. No one cheered when the result of last night's vote was announced. NO ONE"

SNP MP Mhairi Black for example tweeted " Will never forget the noise of some Labour and Tory MP's cheering together at the idea of bombs dropping". This in turn caused a twitter storm and when she later pointed out she had NOT meant the vote itself the damage had been done. I think she meant the cheering after Hilary Benn's speech which was not cheered for glorifying war as some believe but I think the MP's understood how much guts it took to make such an excellent speech knowing he would suffer a backlash from some people , even in his own party but he spoke honestly and with conviction and it was a speech will be rembered for a long time. Others obviously feel differently but there was definitely no cheering when the vote was announced.

There was laughter but it was not in anyway connected to the vote announcement. The Speaker John Bercow ,not a favourite of mine usually, had sat through the entire almost 11 hour debate without removing himself from the chair, not even for the loo.

After he announced the vote result he shouted " Order , we come now to the petition -" meaning there was still yet more busines for MP's and himself in the House to be carried out straight away after they had just been through a gruelling debate for 11 hours. He was not complaining, he was not being disrespectful but yes he did pull a joke face as much as to say 'Heeeeeeelp' it was a human interaction. I do not like John Bercow but I would never accuse him of being disrespectful nor lacking in understanding of the brevity the day had required.

Stansgran Sat 05-Dec-15 13:27:47

Could it be relief that a decision had been made? I should think tension was high.