katie hopkins has done it again

How on earth can you say that only one GNetter lives in London and probably attends a mosque?
I thought we were all a) anonymous and b) if not, I can think of several who have openly stated they live in London. At least 10 off the top of my head and that is without checking profile pages, so there could be many many times that.
You say you are keeping an open mind and the spout the Trump allegations and rubbish what the Met say. How open is that??

Actually I am not sure your image of the "Bobby on the beat" quite tallies with our highly trained and skilled anti terrorism officers either.
You are also again changing the subject when it suits you
1)there are no go areas in London where the police go in fear of their lives
2) radicalisation goes on behind closed doors
And you slither between the two whenever it is clear that your argument has little basis in experience.

Do you understand the concept of the non sequitur ?
There are groups within communities where radicalisation may be taking place all over the country, but of course Donald Trump has only heard of "Lunnon town", not Luton, Leeds, Manchester, Chipping Sodbury
But communities are often much more mixed than you probably realise, so while there may be groups or enclaves, we are not talking ghettoes.
Why do you persevere with your fixation with numbers? You can't prove or disprove anything without recourse to complex statistics to which you are unlikely to have access, so your persoective from the countryside is of necessity less informed than people "on the ground, " people who have lived in areas of London for decades (if not generations).

soon, it if were true do you not think UKIP would be telling us daily?

As far as I know there is only one poster on here who I think I am right in saying lives in one part of London, and probably goes into a mosque on a regular basis.

This has nothing to do with fear.
And all to do with truth.

Radicalisation - goes on behind closed doors.
Parts of London being radicalised. Only the bobby on the street knows, or not knows.

The same phenomenon was highlighted in the voting for the Front National in France last week- the whole of Eastern France voted for Marine and her racist lot- including the part of France very close to me. And yet there is very little immigration there, and even less Immigrants who are Muslims. But they voted on the fear instilled into them by the NF.

People in rural areas where the problems described by the Press or right wing stirrers are more susceptible to believing exaggerations or even lies- as they do not have experience of the reality on the ground.

There was an interesting piece about on the Today Prog this morning. Apparently it's not only London either. It was suggested that the police have practically make arrangement with the elders of the locality to go in.

Quite. But gransnetters always know best or better

Soontobe has told us that she's in her mid 50s. And I don't think she's ever met any real grown ups. But, that could change, her stories often do.

Can you name any? Which story has changed petra?

Of course, there are always people who, usually speaking anonymously and with malign intent, wish to create an atmosphere of fear and mistrust between communities. I had not expected that you, as a professed Christian, would be so willing to go along with such alarmist statements without the benefit of clear and indisputable evidence to back them up. I seem to remember Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers".

As far as I am concerned, there is not clear evidence on either side.
When there isnt, I dont come down one way or the other. How can I? No one should in my opinion. I am keeping an open mind.

Skulls or travellers, whitewave? Or no go areas?

Where has soontobe disappeared to? I hope she hasn't ventured into one of those no-go areas

We have a load in the Sainsburys car park. What asses they are.

I think it was two gangs of travellers, wasn't it, Stansgran? Skulls dug up from a graveyard. Nice people.

Thanks jen, I hadn't heard of it happening,

Did I ever say that the no go area around Bishop. was full of foreigners? Don't think so.

Anyone else for a slapped wrist?

That's them told off then.

soontobe I will take the words of the Met Police and other official bodies, as well as my own experience of London, rather than accept your view that there are "no go " areas in London.

Of course, there are always people who, usually speaking anonymously and with malign intent, wish to create an atmosphere of fear and mistrust between communities. I had not expected that you, as a professed Christian, would be so willing to go along with such alarmist statements without the benefit of clear and indisputable evidence to back them up. I seem to remember Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers".

Stansgran One of your posts seemed to be agreeing with the idea that there are "no go" areas and you cite a comment made on Mumsnet relating to Bishop Auckland. Wikipedia contains the information that only 1.5% of the population of that area is foreign born - as against the national average of 8.9%. The Muslim population makes up 0.2%. As others have suggested, it is often those areas where there are the fewest foreigners where there is also the greatest fear of them and the most prejudice.

It was in the media, Annie, but probably not important enough for the nationals. Two gangs at war with each other.

Skulls dug up and vehicles being deliberately driven into houses ? And no one has told the media

Trump addressed a crowd of police officers, perhaps he should be told if you are black American you are far more likely to be shot by the police than given drugs by all those drug smuggling Mexicans he wants to get rid of ,or blown up by a bomb hurling Muslim

Soontobe has told us that she's in her mid 50s. And I don't think she's ever met any real grown ups. But, that could change, her stories often do.

DrivING -silly iPad

Maybe that was just bad drivers GN!

Didn't make myself clear as usual. There are no go areas I hear around BA but no Trump does not live there (as far as I know. )There was talk of skulls being dug up and lorries driven deliberately into houses.

Does Donald Trump live in County Durham?!

I'm told that there are places near Bishop Auckland in Co Durham that are no go areas. I read it on Mumsnet. Not because Trump lives around there.