Heart-rending news

grannyactivist

It's wrong; it's a horror – and it is individuals and families who suffer. It was always a pointless war and I suspect that many of the military involved knew that but had no choice – even Rumsfeld and Cheney didn't want it (not for ethical, but for political reasons). I remain angry at the politicians who decide these campaigns but whose concern is nothing other than re-election and personal glory.

Beyond words, GA. kind thoughts and hugs

I thought of your family and others whose loved ones were killedvorninjuredcin Afghanistan when listening to the news. Did anyone heard the interview on radio four with a former senior army officer who talked about local,people wrecking the taliban. He said they provided stabilty in areas where the Afghan police and army who'd been put in place but the British were 'corrupt, drug addicted child abusers'.
Sending love to you and your family grannyactivist.

grannyactivist I am so very sorry for you and your daughter and for the families of all those brave men who went to do their duty in a war they should never have been sent to. Also for those whose lives will have been changed for ever by their injuries. (For every soldier killed, there were many others badly wounded.) My main charity at Christmas is Help for Heroes, who do so much for those who will need them for many years to come. Please god our soldiers will only go in an advisory capacity this time.

Author I know how you feel my son was in Iraq I had mastectomy last year in fact I've just said to hubby can't remember last Xmas last year I was on chemo he was recovering for bowel surg . My dil is waiting to have test for genetic gene lots of the big C in her family hope all goes well for your girls and I wonder why we are sending more of our lads I agree with deedaa they should learn from the Russians best wishes x

If the responses to this thread are typical of the view of the British public- & I am sure they are- WHY does HM Gov. believe they would get the support of the people for more involvement in this war that is nothing to do with us at all.They should read sites like this to see how people are really feeling. If they had taken notice of what the people thought we would not have lost so many of our lads in the first place.
I grieve for you & your family Grannyactivist

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Grannyactivist my heart goes out to you, and your daughter. I cannot begin to understand what your family has gone through. All I can say is I fear for our children and grandchildren as to what sort of world awaits them. You will be in my prayers when I go to midnight mass tomorrow. God Bless you and your family.

There are so many natural disasters in the world that definitely take care of overpopulation, why do we have to add to it by killing each other?? Something I shall never understand.

All I can do is send you my hugs and hope that the excitement of your little grandson will help to bring some light to your Christmas as well.

Grannyactivist Words fail me.

So sorry to read your post. This latest news must be like a knife in your hearts, opening the wound.

Could you focus on your daughter and grandson and think that your son-in-law died helping a terrible situation? Easy for me to write, I know.

The problems in Afghanistan are likely to be on-going for many years to come as there is no quick fix and as Deedaa said, the Russians, with all their resources, failed to beat the Taliban.

Please try to be re-assured as our troops will not be actively fighting but in an advisory role so hopefully they will be in less danger.

Don't let this news win over the good things that you do and experience, otherwise 'they' will have won.

& Many times NO. When will Great Britain take on the lessons of history and realise that we can never win in Afghanistan. I have an ulterior motive this year as my daughter and her services husband are expecting their first baby and heaven forbid that he gets sent there.

grannyactivist so sorry for you and all who lost loved ones in this country. Let us hope wisdom will prevail and no more young people will be sent out to their deaths.

This is the first year I have been free from the worry of either my son or daughter being posted to a war zone ( they are both out of the forces now). But my celebrations are tempered by a challenging year ahead that will result in one double mastectomy, maybe two, for my step-daughters, one of whom has the genetic gene and the other with a 50/50 chance. The young have it tough these days. My heart goes out to them all.

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grannyactivist So sorry that the news from Afghanistan is causing you and your family yet more sadness. I agree with your comments.

We should have learned from the fact that the Russians gave up on Afghanistan.

This news must be really turning the knife for you grannya surely we're not going to start the whole thing again.

grannya you, you're family and many other families must feel so betrayed at the tragic loss of their loved ones and no lesson learnt, how many more young lives will be sacrificed

grannyactivist and your family

History would just repeat itself - as it has if we look at the history of that country over so many years.
I never understood why we went in there in the first place, such a waste of young lives.

I share your anger. How can the circle be broken? I don't know but not with a re-run of something that didn't work first time around. So sad for you GA. Sending hugs

What a World!!!!!

Round and round in ever decreasing circles.

Take care Granny A. My lot have come home safely, I just wish more could have joined them. So sad for you and your family; you must miss your SIL, especially at Christmas.

Hopefully our troops will only be there in an advisory role this time. Hopefully.

It made me so cross on the radio this morning when Jeremy Vyne suggested it had been a waste of time our going into Afghanistan in the first place. Time???! How about lives?

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