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Demolishing housing estates

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Anniebach Wed 13-Jan-16 13:45:08

Cameron want to demolish some housing estates , he said today he would not guarantee tenants would be rehoused in the new buildings he intends to build.

Where will the tenants be moved to and what houses will be built on the sites after demolishing the old houses !

Also he said it would help people out of poverty, how?

durhamjen Mon 18-Jan-16 00:19:34

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2016/jan/13/brutalist-housing-estates-private-barbican-social-london

Two housing estates near to each other. One is to be pulled down. They were both built in the late sixties, and probably would fit into Cameron's view of sink estates.
Flats sell in one of them for £4 million. That's not the one to be pulled down.
The reason the other one is to be is because it has only 214 flats on a large site, and the council wants to build a lot more on the site.

durhamjen Sun 17-Jan-16 23:52:17

Yes, Annie. Trying to get it back on track.

Not to Oxford.

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2015/dec/18/dreaming-spires-oxford-uk-most-unaffordable-city

Anniebach Sun 17-Jan-16 23:23:58

Jen, where will they go is a question I asked at the start of this thread , they must be fearful,

durhamjen Sun 17-Jan-16 23:19:02

Maybe they should go to Leamington.

leamingtonobserver.co.uk/news/leamington-cafe-owners-scheme-aiming-help-homeless/

durhamjen Sun 17-Jan-16 23:15:57

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2015/nov/23/gentrification-play-londons-housing-crisis-where-will-we-live

Yes, Annie. Where do they move to when their houses have been knocked down?

One of the depressing things about the Genesis housing association was that they provided funding for the government's housing policy.
I wonder who is on the board at Genesis.

Anniebach Sun 17-Jan-16 23:00:45

And this is what the government are determined to achieve , there will be no social housing

durhamjen Sun 17-Jan-16 22:57:15

"In the weeks since chancellor George Osborne announced that rent paid by social housing tenants should be reduced by 1% a year for the next four years, housing associations in the UK have been scrambling to work out how to absorb the loss. The solution for one of the UK’s biggest housing associations was simple: don’t build social housing anymore.

The justification for the new direction, announced in an Inside Housing interview with Genesis housing association chief executive Neil Hadden, was that the government’s view of social housing had changed. Government policy has been increasingly hard on housing associations. Since 2010, funding was cut by 60%, and since then welfare reforms have hit tenants and affected rental income, the right-to-buy scheme will force associations to sell homes at huge discounts while a 1% cut in social housing rents will reduce the number of homes they can afford to build.

Hadden said the sector could “whinge and bleat” about such changes or adapt. In Genesis’s case, it will now only build homes for sale, shared ownership or to rent out at higher rates. Perhaps the most shocking part of the interview was his response when asked about the organisation’s historical responsibility to house the poor. “That won’t be my problem,” he said. "

From an article about social housing last year. This is the full article.

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2015/aug/07/housing-asssociation-no-longer-build-homes-poor-genesis

I find it very depressing. In PMQs Cameron once again said that the Tory government had built more council houses than the previous 11 (?) years of Labour government. That is because social housing is now built by housing associations.

Anniebach Sun 17-Jan-16 22:25:01

What matters is the truth is told

rosesarered Sun 17-Jan-16 19:46:36

Does it matter?

Anniebach Sun 17-Jan-16 19:41:50

Impossible for any new PM to sell their homes before moving into no 10, they only have a few hours before the move. Blair did sell his, Heath kept his,can't remember what the others did

Ana Sun 17-Jan-16 19:38:16

Don't most (if not all) PMs do that? It's not likely that they'd be required to sell up before they moved into number 10 (or 11 if you're Tony Blair).

rosesarered Sun 17-Jan-16 19:36:31

So what if Camerom chooses to let his house?He can't be in two places at once, so may as well.

rosesarered Sun 17-Jan-16 19:34:29

This is a load of fuss over nothing ( not for the first time.)

Anniebach Sun 17-Jan-16 16:29:26

I find his well rehearsed answers tedious too JessM, on a question on the floods he launched into a joke - I am being kind by calling it a joke- giving a list of Shakespeare plays . A question on shortage of houses brings - I own my home you own yours, what has that to do with the many desperate for social housing

JessM Sun 17-Jan-16 16:18:25

Cameron is letting out his own house while living rent-free in Downing St - nice perk!
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3402417/David-Cameron-slammed-earning-500-000-renting-family-home-Notting-Hill-Prime-Minister-cracking-social-housing.html
He silly Eton school yard jibing and joking in PMQs is getting very tedious.

gillybob Sat 16-Jan-16 23:01:17

So what would a Labour MP do if he/she won the next general election?

Oh yes I get it. "I'm so sorry I can't move into number 10 until I have sold my house in xxxxxxxx street"

hmm

Ana Sat 16-Jan-16 21:33:11

At PMQs he said in response to Corbyn that he lived in his own house, Corbyn lived in his, but wanted to deny the rest of the population the ability to own their own homes.

But you've had to backtrack and can't even admit you got it wrong - after all, you did accuse DC of 'telling fibs'...Ridiculous.

durhamjen Sat 16-Jan-16 21:18:40

I've said what his actual words were, I own my home.
Why are you not picking up roses for getting it wrong, too?
Of course, you never do, do you?

durhamjen Sat 16-Jan-16 21:15:56

Not complaining, just stating.

Ana Sat 16-Jan-16 21:10:08

You were complaining about Cameron claiming moving expenses.

You also claimed that he said he 'lived in' his own house, whereas he didn't say that at all. No apology then? No, I thought not...

Anniebach Sat 16-Jan-16 21:03:54

Before moving to no 10, he lived in one home in London and one home in Oxfordshire , now he lives in no 10, and the Oxfordshire home and rents out his London home . In 2010 he admitted he didn't know/ couldn't remember how many houses owned , so must have sold some since , one can't forget two houses surely

durhamjen Sat 16-Jan-16 21:03:10

Not complaining; just stating. Cameron is one example of someone who will gain from the vote, along with the others on the list.

As I said earlier, if it was council voting, those councillors who had houses to rent out would have to declare an interest and not vote.
SNP did not get a vote because it was not relevant to Scotland. It was the first time that EVEL had been used.

One MP I know of, Hollinrake of Thirsk and Malton.
He has a share of twelve residential properties in York, all of which he rents out.
If this law had gone through, it would have cost him to register the fact that these properties were fit. It's like all properties are supposed to have pat testing of electrical equipment. Some do, some try and get away with it.

Is that reasonable? It's illegal, but there are not enough people to check on it; small state government now.
Anyone who stands to gain from a vote should not be able to vote. That's reasonable to me.

thatbags Sat 16-Jan-16 20:54:53

Ah. smile

Jalima Sat 16-Jan-16 20:54:41

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/8389091/Cherie-Blair-Tony-still-excites-me-in-all-possible-ways.html
but definitely a new mattress at least

Jalima Sat 16-Jan-16 20:53:03

grin
sometimes it's cheaper to buy a whole bed than just a mattress!