Cameron - friend of Muslim women?

Oh dear Jess, yet another Big Fat Fib disguised as welfare reforms and improvements.

Little update on this one. Just talking to someone who works in Further Ed in London. Last summer they lost £38 million funding for ESOL classes in London alone.
A few months later Cameron announces £20 million being "given" for ESOL for whole of England.

Thanks Jess

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/migrants-dunkirk-british-citizens-france-tent-city-iraqi-kurds-uk-passports

Can anyone see any reason why this is happening?
Why can these families not come to Britain?

You may be right Anya but I had always understood that "reciprocal agreement" was something that existed between UK and many countries, not just EU, whereby emergency treatment was given to those travelling abroad on the same basis as to citizens. (and because reciprocal they don't need to re-charge).
For people living abroad there are an awful lot of rules and regulations depending on your circumstances.
www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/plannedtreatment/Pages/Introduction.aspx
www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/movingabroad/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Jess are you able to back up your posts about ex-pats? I did ask and I'm still waiting.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/28/cardiff-asylum-house-at-centre-of-wristband-row-to-be-inspected

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/30/cardiff-asylum-house-removes-beds-overcrowding

Inspections were not done until complaints came in about the home, bags. The Home Office said it undertook inspections regularly. It didn't otherwise it would have known that the residents were eleven to a room which was only suitable for six.
Companies are paid by the Home Office to put asylum seekers in overcrowded rooms. If the Home Office did not know, there is something wrong with its records.
You must see that is wrong.

I thought that, in Spain at least, those of pensionable age had the cost of any treatment reimbursed by the UK government under a reciprocal agreement. I thought that it was in the pipeline that this will not apply to those of working age from February 2016, who are now required to take our private health insurance.

Jess . Do you know that Brits in eg Spain, or France or Germany don't pay their way? Do they claim assistance from those governments? What reciprocal arrangements do these countries have with the UK re health care? Do they contribute to the local economy in any way?

I'd be happy if you could answer these questions, so I can clarify the points raised.

Re your link DJ what on earth have those landlords who run illegal HMO got to do with 'home grown scroungers' ? A tad entrepreneurial (in a bad way) I suppose the link is with those who are milking the system??

Expats paying own way? What if pensions or other income taxed in UK? There maybe e.g. some Spanish property taxes (like council tax) and VAT, but that's not going to pay their way if they need lots of healthcare is it? Or cover lots of other public services they benefit from. Or am I missing something?

I read the link you posted, dj. I fail to see how what the article says makes you interpret what is said as the Home Office "washing its hands of the problem". You have heard of due process, I presume?

I note that there is nothing in the article suggesting the complaining MP has been to have a look for herself to ascertain whether what she's heard is correct. She only mentions thing being 'reported' to her. She has every right to complain, of course, but I think she should check for herself before complaining publicly.

No, I am not defending the company that owns Lynx House. They may well be in the wrong, in which case due process of checks will find out and take appropriate action, as the article says.

There is no washing of hands suggested in that link.

JessM I suspect that the British expats pay their own way.

Cameron was not talking about asylum seekers ( a bunch) but economic migrants at Calais who don't think France is a good enough country for them.

What about all the Brits that are living in the sun and using the local services in Spain etc. Do they count Anya

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-35440687

Scroungers like the people who run this home for asylum seekers, you mean?
It just happens to be the wristband one.
I love the Home Office washing its hands of the problem.

How about a sort of swap? These hard working migrants welcomed and we rid ourselves of some of our home-grown scroungers

Sounds good to me

beats a hasty retreat to leave for school run

Or at least nicer things about all the hard working tax paying immigrants who enable the UK (and particularly the SE) to keep on working.

Unfortunately, I think I agree with those on Question Time last night who said that immigration will be the biggest decider of the referendum.
If so, and Cameron really wants to stay in, he will have to start saying nicer things about asylum seekers.

Cameron's phrase "a bunch of migrants" used in PMQs yesterday revealed his true attitudes? (note he did not use term "asylum seekers").
Instead of taking an anti UKIP stance on migrants he has consistently played the anti-migrant card, thus doing his bit to encourage racism and anti-EU feeling. There is a positive story to tell on the contribution that immigrants have made to this country. Many people who are making a successful contribution to his own world of politics are the children of migrants, including Michael Howard whose parents were Romanian Jews.

Wilma, my eight year old granddaughter could write a letter like that.

It does not matter if Cameron is talking about that child's mother or not. It's the child's perception that matters.
My two grandchildren whose mother is Danish are worried that Cameron will send her back to Denmark if she loses her job here. It does not matter how many times you reassure them. Their dad does not earn the £35,000 deemed necessary to bring up a family with a foreign mother, so actually, we do not know what would happen in the law of unintended consequences.

The point being that, however much Trudeau may want to reduce or shut down the Canadian oil industry, he can't without wrecking Canada's economy, and as PM he can't do that.

Cameron's intention to run the greenest government ever will have come up against similar blockages to his ideals. OK, Cameron might have been lying (acknowledgement of political 'nuance') but I don't think he was. I think his intentions were okay, and I think they were with this teaching English thing too. It is people who don't see that who, I feel, are not acknowledging the complicatedness of real life.

Don't all PMs have to adapt to others once they are elected because the job turns out to be much more complicated than they had realised? As an example to illustrate that, apparently the new "green" PM of Canada has recently criticised DiCaprio's "inflammatory rhetoric" about the Canadian oil industry.

I've always thought that understanding a complex problem to be complex was part of understanding, and acknowledging, political nuances.

I think perhaps you are talking about political point scoring, or political identifying, or some such other tosh that I have not taken part in and always try not to take part in because I don't think it's helpful.

Agreed Jamila.

I did actually agree with DC (or actually the chancellor) the other day about inflicting a bit more tax on buy to let landlords.
I don't think he's necessarily "bad", just an abysmally awful PM who has completely changed his tune since he first got elected. It could be that he is not "bad" but that he allows others to dictate what he says and does.