How will you vote in the EU referendum?

Some media commenters are saying Cameron is finished whatever the result of the referendum.

I've been looking to see which other Tory MPs seem to be supporting Boris. Sarah Wollaston (she is no fool) says he "sets out a compelling case".

We live in interesting times.

Yes Johnson certainly wants to lead the outers. But will his group get chosen as the official one? It will be somewhat Ironic as half the Tory party were forced kicking and screaming into this referendum by UKIP threat and potentially up leading both camps

Nice post daphnedill .
Much agreement across the 'net this morning that Boris is hoping to lead a win for "out" and that this is an aggressive pitch for Cameron's job.
This could split the Tories, permanently.

The majority of the young will vote to stay. Not sure that we have the right to choose their future.

dj, I wasn't really addressing you, but it makes me cross that polls show that the majority of people who want to leave are over 55. Many of them won't be the people living with the consequences. My children will vote to stay in too. My daughter studied part of her degree as an Erasmus student (subsidised by the EU), hops on planes to visit friends in the EU as she would visit anybody in the UK and hopes to spend at least part of her working life in the EU.

Quite agree, durhamjen. The 'outers' can't even agree what they want. IDS and Priti Patel want to be free to do even more damage to the social structure of the UK. Douglas Carswell wants a libertarian, hi tech society with a 'flexible' labour force free of EU employment legislation. He wants high immigration of skilled workers and couldn't care less about the low skilled. Gove claims that the EU stopped him doing more to 'reform' education - thang goodness for that! Farage wants to return to some kind of 1950s eutopia, conveniently forgetting that we don't have an empire and don't need a huge army to be cannon fodder. Boris is a political chancer. Goodness knows why George Galloway wants to leave! We end up as some kind of bungling island (possibly without Scotland) somewhere off the coast of mainland Europe. France and Germany wouldn't do us any favours.

One granddaughter old enough to vote. She will vote to stay in. My sons will vote to stay in.
Both my sons partners are EU citizens. My granddaughter has EU, American and USSR heritage as well as UK.
We are united nations.

Ask your children and grandchildren how they're going to vote. They're the ones who will be living with the consequences for the next 50+ years.

But we do know what life is like in the EU, petra.
I quite like the fact that they have a controlling influence on this government.
I do not even pretend to know what makes Cameron, Gove, Osborne and Boris tick.
So yes, better the devil we know.

Guess you don't read past posts Elrel.

It's yesterdays chip paper probably by now

Boris has gone for Brexit.

durhamjen. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, in that case.

"My starting point is simple. I believe that the decisions which govern all our lives, the laws we must all obey and the taxes we must all pay should be decided by people we choose and who we can throw out if we want change. If power is to be used wisely, if we are to avoid corruption and complacency in high office, then the public must have the right to change laws and Governments at election time."

From Gove's article in the Independent.
That is the reason we should stay in, as far as I am concerned.
This government has done nothing for the ordinary voter to reclaim taxes. The tax laws that this government espouses only enables rich people to get richer.
There is corruption and complacency in this government, and it is the EU that is trying to contain it.
We have the right to change governments and laws at election time, so that does not make sense.

Another sentence, "whoever is in government in London cannot support a steel plant through troubled times" is so wrong. The government could have done; it chose not to do so.

"The government cannot build the houses we need where they're needed."? That has nothing to do with the EU.

"In Britain we established trial by jury in the modern world, we set up the first free parliament, we ensured no-one could be arbitrarily detained at the behest of the Government, we forced our rulers to recognise they ruled by consent not by right, we led the world in abolishing slavery, we established free education for all, national insurance, the National Health Service and a national broadcaster respected across the world."

All of these have been changed by this government; Gove lives in a different world to me.

These are all reasons why I shall be voting to stay in. However, I did not need Gove to write this to help me decide.

Wonder which of the 2 out groups will be designated the official groups? One is very Westminster orientated, and the other grass roots.

That is the problem grandMattie, it is not a treaty or even an inclusion into one.

Had there been cast iron guarantees , set in stone (not like Ed's stone) and then we were asked to vote it might have been a more clear cut decision. As it is whether we stay in or leave both decisions have consequences for and against

I stiill don't know defninitely if I'm an "In" or "out".

I would like an absolute guarantee that the EU parliament won't go back on all the concessons given to DC. The talks may well have offered him these concessions, but do they guarantee them???

I voted "For" last time. But then they hadn't started on the Euro, the US of Europe, the closer usinon, meaning that the UK has to give in for absolutly everything that France and Germany want. It is interesting to see these two in bed together...

For me the volt face belongs to Messrs.Corbyn and McDonnell who have most certainly been through the lobby to vote against the EU. Yet now they are all for it, mind you they are not exactly shouting from the rafters, thus far at least.

As Labour MP's Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer mentioned at the Labour Leave Campaign (something that hasn't been spoken of) , both Corbyn and McDonnell have consistently voted with them and other Eurosceptic MP's for donkeys years on matters relating to the EU in the past.

I have watched Corbyn being interviewed by George Galloway on Russia Today and he has most definitely not been anything other than Eurosceptic.

It just goes to show that positions of power force you to soon drop your cause but that's politics for you I guess.

Good Bozza spoof here.

He said he'd back the In campaign if David Cameron succeeded in creating a sovereignty plan, which he hasn't.

I never heard him say that Whitewave where did you see that out of interest not because of sarcasm just in case I might be misconstrued.

A complete volt face! Only 2 weeks ago Johnson was saying he intended to support the remain camp. This is almost certainly about the leadership bid and nothing to do with what he really believes. Johnson is a natural internationalist. It will be interesting to listen to his arguments,as they will contradict so much of the arguments he has developed over for at least the past 10 years.

Yes, I've just seen that on Sky News. He's certainly right about one thing - Cameron's EU deal is unimpressive.

Well at least we now know Boris Johnston is advocating Vote Leave.!

We need good practical advice and I hope that's what he gives us.

I have been listening to both sides on different tv programmes and as usual the politicians are all about there selves. I will be voting to leave I think we would manage very well on our. The talk about we will have more terrorist's threats is just away to scare monger people, as it is we do not no how many terrorist's have just come into our country and why were so many cities put on red alert over Christmas and New Year. We just need tighter border control like they have in Australia.

There must be something in it for Europe or they wouldn't have agreed to the compromise arrangement. Is it the money we have to contribute? I don't know.