How will you vote in the EU referendum?

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I did a double take on this.
Alan Johnson.

Every Sunday, before someone pulls me up on that!

No one's suggesting or proposing that doctors work every Saturday. Or Sunday.

He us stupid enough to claim he is leading by example , bet the doctors would like a two hour Saturday

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/jeremy-hunt-turned-up-to-work-on-a-saturday-and-absolutely-no-one-missed-the-irony--b1phCLFSCe

Apparently Greece threatened to veto the deal if member states closed borders to refugees.

Whitewave, I know of a pharmaceutical research company that is moving to Ireland along with its 100 staff.
They were doing that anyway, for favourable tax breaks, whatever the outcome of the EU referendum.

Well presumably as the UK is the second largest contributor to the EU coffers, they'll continue to benefit from that, whereas if we leave they obviously won't.

What's a relief, ceesnan?

One question I would like answered is what do the other EU countries get out of agreeing to the UK's demands?

The origins of the EU come from the desire after WWII to avoid any more major conflicts. Winston Churchill was one of the first to suggest a union of European countries. This gives the complete history in summary form:

europa.eu/about-eu/eu-history/index_en.htm

I am voting to stay in - with the uncertain world we live in, giving in to the current rabid view of anyone trying to flee a war zone being a drain on our finances and not worthy of help is quite frankly abhorrent to me. Pulling up the drawbridge is not the answer to the current crisis in Syria. Don't forget that this current government is contributing to the crisis with its ineffective and totally unnecessary bombing.

During WWII North Africa took in millions of refugees from Europe - people who seek refugee status do not necessarily want to stay and many return home when it is safe to do so. A lot of the views on refugees that I see on social media these days are reminiscent of fascism in Germany in the 1930's and really should not be resurfacing in the 21st century.

We also owe a lot of our current employment laws and protection to the EU - something that we take for granted.

David Cameron’s main priority appears to be a free market Europe and very little else. It is just a smokescreen to hide the problems many people face in the UK on a daily basis. These problems are not going to disappear if we leave the EU.

Duty Free allowances are likely to return also!

If the EU continues to trade with UK they will be able to levy taxes on the goods and also impose them on our goods. It would probably not be quite as straightforward as now.

I think it unlikely UK citizens living in the EU would be thrown out but those in work pay social charges so get Healthcare and those retired are in fact eventually paid for by the UK - and if this continued would presumably still be allowed to use the EU countries Health care systems and have a top up health Assurance policy. If the UK support were taken away Ex pats - who would become migrants - would either need to contribute ( in France) 8% of their income to the health system plus the assurance or pay for a full health policy which is about £5K a year for a couple.

The tax agreement would not necessarily be implemented so no allowance given for tax paid in UK - only part if it is given back as an allowance anyway at the moment.

Looking at the worst scenario for retired people many would need to sell and return to UK if the stories we hear from them are true and probably be needing help with housing and paying bills when they arrive back.

I really cant see them stopping selling to us, or us selling to them.

My biggest immediate fear if we come out is whether the remaining European countries might decide to deliberately make life as difficult as possible for us economically, either as a sort of revenge, or simply to discourage other countries from doing the same.

I still haven't a clue how I will vote, because my heart says one thing and my head says another!

That will be a relief.

I think I might be watching a lot less news from now on if it's going to be like this until June.

We have until Thursday 23 June to make up our minds. Better start concentrating! Cameron calls EU referendum for June

Whitewave. I can only give an insight into expats.
I lived in an EU country before it went into the EU. Every year we had to get a residency permit, and show that we had enough money to keep ourselves and have medical insurance.

There's already a 38 degrees questionnaire on the EU and what we want them to research on. Perhaps you could put some of your questions on there, whitewave.

Have you read all the stuff on www.fullfact.org, whitewave?
Not just the fullfact information itself, but all the links in the articles?
You might find some of your answers there.

You've put some very good questions whitewave, and I've not yet seen any answers that are satisfying.

whitewave Interesting questions. To answer them requires the capacity to predict consequences. I don't know who or where you get that from.

Call me risk averse, but I have not changed my opinion that, on balance, I will vote to remain in the EU.

What can be predicted is that both sides of the debate will be ramping up the pressure on the voting public with scaremongering and mud-slinging.

Questions I need answering. Be grateful if anyone can.

If we come out of the EU, how will the UK fare with a large economic block to our east, which will have an enormous amount of clout compared to us. In fact most of the world is in some sort of joint enterprise economically.

What will happen to all our citizens in Europe who are working together with all the ex-pats retirees?

How will the farming community fare when all the subsidies cease?

How will the various businesses fare who are hiring Europeans either for their skills or cheap labour?

How will the sciences manage when the large amount of money for research ceases?

Will goods purchased from the EU increase in price?

Will the EU still be prepared to use the City for financial services or will they look to build a centre of their own in say Berlin?

Will those companies attracted to sit in the UK because of our various incentives and here because of the EU, still be so willing to remain once the various tariffs are put into force, as the bigger market must be with the EU.

How will the fact that the EU will be able to dictate the rules and regs to us with regards to our trade with them work in practice?

There are so many more unanswered questions but even getting these answered with some certainty would be good

I think that there is going to be a lot of rubbish spouted by most politicians, and all sorts of people, before even they have got some of their facts straight.
I think I am pretty much going to close my ears to it all until a lot nearer 23 June.

I suppose you'd have to have a vote in the constituency to get a clear idea of people's wishes, so not much further forward really!! I don't know, for me it's a conundrum that's for sure!