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How will you vote in the EU referendum?

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quizqueen Thu 28-Jan-16 10:44:45

I'm definitely for LEAVING. Even if it was proved that the country would be slightly worse off I would still vote to leave. It would be worth it to gain our freedom from such a corrupt organisation.
3 million jobs would be at risk. That's a lie.
The person wrote that comment only said 3 million were involved in industries which sold to the EU. They would still continue to deal with the EU if we left. The report was also written many years ago so if we have not increased that figure over the years it shows there has been NO growth!!!.

durhamjen Sat 06-Feb-16 20:57:39

Obieone, it depends on how rich a citizen you are as to whether Cameron is putting you first.

Jalima Sat 06-Feb-16 19:59:01

moon
Perhaps best

Ana Sat 06-Feb-16 19:58:48

Ermm...sorry, Jalima...

Ana Sat 06-Feb-16 19:58:06

x posts, Jamila! grin

Ana Sat 06-Feb-16 19:57:24

confused

Jalima Sat 06-Feb-16 19:57:22

Actually it was obieone who asked for the link, I thought of asking but I didn't
Completely losing track now, am I fit to vote? blush

Jalima Sat 06-Feb-16 19:55:25

It was me asked for the link petra
I can have a look on-line (probably tomorrow now)

Ana Sat 06-Feb-16 18:57:51

Got that wrong there. I meant that plenty of ordinary working-class folk intend to vote to stay IN - possibly because they don't like change but certainly not because they're rich!

petra Sat 06-Feb-16 18:48:46

obieone. Re linking. Having probs with that. Apple are sorting it.
It was in the DM today.
I notice Ms Merkel is very quiet lately. Maybe she thought it best to keep quiet with all the protests going on in her country. Or are all those 1,000s of people wrong.

Ana Sat 06-Feb-16 18:40:17

I doubt it. Plenty of ordinary working-class people intend to vote OUT.

obieone Sat 06-Feb-16 18:37:22

Are in or out divided along wealth lines do you think? I hadnt thought about it in those terms.

durhamjen Sat 06-Feb-16 18:29:26

It depends how rich a citizen you are, obieone.

obieone Sat 06-Feb-16 17:41:14

If the citizens of a particular country are not prepared to put their own country first, then who will?
Is even David Cameron putting us first?

obieone Sat 06-Feb-16 17:37:30

Do you have a link for the article please petra?

Jalima Sat 06-Feb-16 16:31:06

I think that the big plan needs looking at very carefully too petra

petra Sat 06-Feb-16 16:19:47

I read an article today that stated that the EU will fail because the 'ruling elite' don't understand patriotism. It went onto talk about the Eastern block countries and their view that the EU is akin to their past soviet masters.
I can well understand this point of view.
That article took me to some very scary views on what is the big plan for Europe.

Jalima Sat 06-Feb-16 16:03:39

it is always Britain, Britain Britain and what they want out of it.
hmm A lot of us remember that it was set up for the benefit of France and Germany and some people do still think that Germany tries to call all the shots.

I am not saying I do, but I have heard other people state this in discussions.

Re Poland, I thought that their economy was doing a lot better and that a lot of Poles had moved back and that in fact many British people had moved there to work.

Jalima Sat 06-Feb-16 16:00:03

It seems nothing is fixed yet and won't be fixed in time for a referendum
MargaretX I thought the timing must be wrong, because it seems too short a time between getting any changes agreed and the referendum.

So in fact, if we are undecided and the proposed changes are what will sway our vote one way or another, we will be voting on something quite nebulous and unratified.

Tingleydancer Sat 06-Feb-16 15:38:19

I am in complete agreement with Badenkate and Lavande. It would be a huge mistake for the UK to exit the EU. I will without doubt be voting to remain in. Sure, the EU has a number of failings as far as some Brits are concerned but the wider implications of a Brexit could be disastrous, i.e. higher prices on certain goods and services, lack of subsidies, and fewer customers for our exports. We have been in the EU many years now so we have become accustomed to buying a range of produce in our supermarkets that we have all come to love and these are likely to cost or disappear altogether. Little England? Not for me!

durhamjen Sat 06-Feb-16 00:48:37

I agree. I also think that Cameron is going to have to let his front bench off the leash before whatever it is has been agreed.

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 06-Feb-16 00:18:09

I still don't think the draft agreement will be agreed in its current form.

durhamjen Fri 05-Feb-16 23:47:07

I wasn't talking about the EU parliament. I was talking about politicians in EU countries compared to our parliament. I do not pretend to understand their languages, but their MPs on television seem to come across as more polite than our MPs.

I haven't seen any other parliament braying like the Tories do in PMQs.

durhamjen Fri 05-Feb-16 23:42:49

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/04/revealed-tax-credit-data-exposes-limits-of-camerons-emergency-brake

rosesarered Fri 05-Feb-16 20:14:52

It makes ours look like a vicars tea party ( minus the cucumber sandwiches.)

POGS Fri 05-Feb-16 19:32:43

More polite!

Have you ever watched debates from the EU Parliament.?

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