It will bring down David Cameron

Or was it late?;

Gosh, you're up early durhamjen !

I didn't, Ana.
Jane10 did.
You really should read more posts.

I thought Elegran might have been talking about herself, but now she's explained what she really meant I realise that was not so.

I have been out all afternoon so I have missed a chunk of the thread, otherwise I might have felt hurt at being classed as a homegrown poplitico. I have never pretended to any political expertise, just to a modicum of common sense.

Popliticos = pop-up politicos, the instant political experts who proliferate in the press at a time like this. No need for any poster to feel that I meant anyone in particular.

we have months of this to look forward to!

and Russell Brand

It would suit Blair's Babes and Cameron's Cuties

I didn't think Elegran was referring to anyone on here at all, but to any one of a number of UK politicians.

Strange that you should immediately jump to the conclusion that she meant you, durhamjen.

I do like that new word popliticos
Must practise it

Not really, Jane. I admit that I like political debate. Almost all I go on is news and politics. I also admit to being socialist, and knowing what I believe in.
Punditry because I give links to what I have read? At least I back up what I say.
Some people do not like all the links, but that's okay because they are more than balanced out by the ones who do.
How do I know? They tell me so.

Not boredom Jingle, just unfair that anyone is accused of something they did not do or say so

Thanks for the link Laine, very enlightening. That's the trouble, vote to stay and they can impose anything on us and we can't do a thing about it.

Durhamjen - massive pot calling kettle black!!

You mean like you, Elegran.

Popliticos was a mistype, but I think I have just coined a new word for the self-appointed pundits who pop up all over the place.

Ah, if you had mentioned Obama I might have searched for something that He had said, dj, instead of something one of our homegrown popliticos had said. We don't all scan the political news each morning for the latest offering, to keep our blood pressure topped up.

I still think there is a wide gap to leap between saying that there could be higher tariffs in the US if Britain leaves the EU, which some US firms might not want to meet, and saying that the US might not trade with Britain. There are a lot of firms in the US, "some of them" does not make up the whole of the States. You make it sound as though the entire country would dump Britain immediately!

As it happens it was not in fact Obama but Michael Froman, President Barack Obama's trade adviser, who said most on the subject. his statement is condemned as "ugly scaremongering" by Nile Gardiner (Director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, DC)

"It is very hard to see the United States post-Obama raising trade barriers against a nation that more than any other in the world shares with it a common culture, history and language, and whose economies, militaries, and intelligence agencies are so deeply intertwined."

But, jingl, some readers on here might have believed you and thought worse of Corbyn because of it.

Why do pinkie and perkie some posters on this thread always want to quibble about little things. Boredom?

Yes. I was wrong about who said it. Big deal! (If you really are that petty and small minded)

So Corbyn is responsible for what a labour MP says ? This means Cameron is responsible for anything said by a Tory MP ?

It was actually Michael Froman who said it.

The article makes many good points about US scaremongering (for their own ends, of course) and as it points out

The idea that the United States would not sign a free trade agreement with its closest friend and ally, the world’s fifth largest economy, is ludicrous.

capx.co/the-obama-administrations-brexit-warning-is-ugly-scaremongering/

Obama said it about trading between the UK and the US. Whatever private companies trade with the UK after Brexit, if it happens, there will be higher tariffs, which these companies might not wish to pay.

Obviously Obama's on his way out so not important enough to find out about.
But then, so is Cameron.

Give up, jingle. You've lost on this one.
I did actually watch PMQs with my grandson.
I directed you to Hansard because it is usually correct and unbiased, unlike news reports.
I get emails from www.theyworkforyou.com to direct me to areas discussed that I am interested in, like the EU, Saudi Arabia, NHS, etc.
Then I know what has actually been said.
Nothing pompous about it. I like to be accurate, unlike some others on here.

It was very funny, but TBH, I think Corbyn won.

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