Should prostitution be legalised?

There will always be outcry from some, as a Yorkshire man , with Welsh ancestry, living in Essex, I am the possible target of many jokes, and that's what they are, to be taken light heartedly, and I try to give as good as I get.

Good spirited banter seems to be the territory of men, women, generally don't get it or take it too seriously.

Sexism as well pompa? Temper temper.

FHS lighten up.

I know POGS, and having belonged to forums for quite a few years one gets fed up with constant jibes . I have no problem with light hearted banter .

Just stop beating Pompa and Grummpa about the head for being men, would you, Jess? They are a part of "us" as much as any of the women on here. They may approach prostitution from a different angle, but they are sensible (and sensitive) about it, and a view from the other side of the bed is a useful persepective.

And please Anniebach make up your mind whether you intend to engage in a bit of light banter about the sheep or to get the claws out about racial stereotypes and the subjugation of the Welsh - for crying out loud, exactly the same "stereotyping" takes place about sheep farmers in the Scottish uplands, Australia, and probably every other place where men in wellies look after woolly jumpers, not to mention stockmen dealing with other beasts.

As for believing that prostitution is exactly the same as being a footballer's wife - you must be pulling our legs. A prostitute sleeps with anyone and everyone who can afford it - come one, come all. A footballer's wife risks a black eye if she fancies another man and acts on her desire.

A wife who doesn't have a paid job, but instead looks after the children oif her marriage, her home, and her extended family, and works part-time or intermittently when opportunity arises, is NOT exchanging sex for money, she is contributing to what is essential at the time to the partnership she is in.

Where does all this dour PC ness come from? Lighten up as pompa says.
Somebody referred to the Cynthia Payne case earlier.... I always thought it was ridiculous to close down her ' afternoons' all with matronly prostitutes and the clientele of accountants and vicars.

Herumph! What about male prostitutes?

As a Welsh person with Welsh ancestry from 17th century - can't get further back, yet - born in Wales, always lived in Wales , will be buried in Wales , I can tell the difference between a joke and a put down

As an English person,with English ancestry going back to the 16th century,
Born in England, always lived in England will be buried in England, I can tell the difference too! Any Scots or Irish here care to add a comment?However,
I don't always assume it's a put down.

Who mentioned footballers wives,in missed that post , and do all footballers give their wives black eyes ?

And please Elegran, do not tell me to make up my mind on any topic , you are not a moderator so please stop being bossy. And it's New Zealanders and sheep

You would only go there if you intended to, it does not overflow into residential areas.

I think this was posted by Pompa but it is not the case I'm afraid. A few years ago DH & I stayed in Amsterdam in a hotel a fair distance from the city centre. We walked back through residential streets and were surprised to come across several individual lighted windows where prostitutes were in residence. I wondered how they turned a coin as there didn't seem to be much in the way of passing trade.

I'm sure there are many more male prostitutes than we might imagine. I suspect there are many gay men who would rather use a prostitute than admit they are gay.

You are so lucky Rosesarered, very difficult for the Welsh to find records going back to the 16th century , the English had a problem with our patronymic system

There will always be prostitution and I think better to accept this fact and change the law to make it a safer occupation for woman and for men, more male prostitutes are murdered than female prostitutes

Surely the birth/marriage/death records in Welsh churches were a matter for the incumbent of the individual church to keep up to date and preserve? Nothing to do with any problems the English may have had with the patronymics? If a child William were born to David ap Rees, and baptised, then it would be entered in the register as such.

Try familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Wales_Church_Records

You are mistaken Elegran , all those records are church records and the church in Wales was at one time part of the Church of England

Only got back as far as online resources will take us, about mid 1800's, guess we will need to search local parish records to get back further. We did find the house in Haverford West where they lived.

And the child William would have been William David not William Rees

Not William ap David?

The vicar of a Church of England church in Wales would have recorded events (or not recorded them) in the same way as a vicar in a similar church in England would have recorded them (or not) and the record would have survived (or not) much the same.

OK, William son of David - but if the Welsh distinguished their children by the given name of their father and no other differentiation, it is hardly the fault of the vicar who recorded what he was told. In a village with a dozen Williams and Davids baptised every year (at a minimal estimate) with several of their fathers being William or David, that is bound to cause problems when someone is looking back from modern times. William David himself could probably recite his pedigree back several centuries, but if it wasn't written down, it is now lost.

Not everything that irks you is the fault of the English.

Pompa If you live within reach of a Mormon Family history Centre, you can order microfilm of old parish records to view there. They have filmed original data from all over the globe.

I bow to your expertise on your knowledge of Welsh parish records Elegran, I only transcribe for several Welsh county archives so what would I know

Coming back to the OP, you just gotta love Julie Burchill, don't you?

"Whenever I think of Jeremy Corbyn’s nasty habit of cosying up to any goon-squad gangster going, I can’t help but recall Alan Partridge swivelling about on a makeshift stage in his Y-fronts for a silent thug at a ringside seat: “Ooo, scary Irish men! I like your berets! Would you like me to lapdance for you?” "

I fully expect this to produce a series of pro-Corbyn diatribes.

What gangsters does Corbyn Cosy up to?

Read the article yourself ab