Anti Semitism in Labour Party and Universities.

BTW if goods were clearly labelled then people could make informed choices about purchases. I will not buy fruit from Israel. It is a choice I make. I did not by Sth African fruits when apartheid was enforced. It did not mean I hated white Sth Africans just that I opposed the politics of apartheid. Boycotts can bring pressure on governments to consider their policies.

I could never be tired of politics ..it is how we live our lives and affects many daily decisions. I have said that I believe both parties will have/have had individuals that will be racist and that it should not to be swept under the carpet. Any party member expressing racist views should be thrown out. Not sure what else thee would be to say.

In my opinion, if you want to help bring peace to any situation, be that big or small, you have to spend an almost identical amount of time with both sides.

It is easy to see which side a person is really on if that person does not.

I think others on here know what I was getting at ab which is not as you say, but you must think what you want, and we'll just leave it at that.

The reason some have disagreed strongly is because some have treated anti semitism as labour politics as you have just done nigglenellie , anti semitism is not part of labour politics . It's the same as saying apartheid is part if Tory politics because of the actions and lack of of action from Cameron and Thatcher , but it isn't so

and politics in particular!!!!!!

I think that perhaps those of us who are not labour supporters probably shouldn't have entered this debate. I for one really don't know enough about Labour politics to comment one way or another. I got carried away off the point and shouldn't have commented at all, I realise that now, and apologise for deviating. It's a pity this conversation has had to end badly, but unfortunately they so often do in political discussions. As you say POGS perhaps people are just getting fed up with political threads in general.

To be honest it might as well be 'knocked on the head' because the OP was never going to be debated/discussed with any rationality remaining within the remit of the OP. I am happy to put the final nail in but I will explain why.

I knew the left wing posters and those who tell us of their left wing activism would defend and divert attention away from 'current political affairs' by referring to the past or ignoring points raised in the OP concerning our ' Universities ' . The percieved history of Israel by posters also deflected from the remit in the OP. I was hoping to hear the view of some posters I hold a high regard for and for the most part this did not happen. I have to therefore assume that either this topic is of no interest, they too think it a vile thread, totally disinterested or possibly fed up with political threads in general.

I feel satisfied that prior to starting this thread upto it's possible conclusion, if that happens today, I have watched and heard so many Labour MP's being interviewed or discussing this problem on political programs such as Daily Politics that I am heartened that at least the Parliamentary Labour Party MP's (not the grass roots) are boldly voicing their views and I will watch for the Baroness Royal Inquiry into claims of anti semitism in the Oxford University Labour Club /London School of Economics etc.etc. as part of the review into Labours Youth Wing. I hope the contraversial comment by the Political Director of Unite does not muddy the water over the fact Baroness Jan Royall is a member of the Labour Friends of Israel group , a matter that can be seen as slightly ironic given the Inquiry's remit.

This thread is well past its sell by date, and should be knocked on the head without delay.

Goodness, this is getting very nasty!

Thank you for the unpleasant pm daphnedill but we don't go in for that on this forum.

Why the quote was relevant? Are you skipping most of the posts rosesesrered

Surely the history of the Jewish history was veering off the subject

The 'food for thought' means that Venus gave a lot of very interesting information about Jewish history, also about how she and another poster felt at the moment, being Jewish and troubled by the rise in anti-semitism and links to Corbyn, his supporters, and their friendship with people who hate Jews.Some ( only some) posters on here found that an insult to the Labour Party and didn't like it, so veered off the subject when they could.
Yes, there isn't any point going on, but being dismissive about it speaks volumes IMO.

daphne it may be news to you, but you don't actually control this thread, or any other. Adding a lol doesn't make anything amusing btw.

You're still at it! No, there isn't. lol

She's told you why it's relevant, rosesarered.

So why do you persist with your misconceptions -insults- when you agree that the discussion is at an end?

However, this thread has given readers food for thought.

It has become very obvious that there is antagonism to the suggestion of anti-semitism within the Labour Party.

Mo Mowlam was lady who died far too young.

I agree. There are people even within the Israeli government who want to try and negotiate peace, but Netanyahu isn't having it. As far as he's concerned, peace isn't possible and he sees a solution only in terms of oppression by harrassment and military might. It's no coincidence that he's best buddy with Putin. He's not interested in negotiating.

daphne you are rather good at 'chucking in a few insults 'yourself.

Thank you daphne I'm sure I would not have known that was a quote without your helpful comment ( although the Nelson Mandela written under it did rather give it away.)
I was asking anniebach why the quote was relevant.

No, there isn't much to say, but I'm curious why you're still conflating criticism of Netanyahu's government with anti-Semiticism in your post 25 Mar 11.54.37.

I'm also wondering who these 'unpleasant types' in Momentum are. Do you actually know what Momentum is all about?

It seems that the discussion is all but over, but you still want to chuck in a few insults.

Anyone who doesn't take the same road as Mandela , Mo Molam did and this started the peace talks in N Ireland yet she was called an IRA supporter just because she spoke to them in The Maze

It's a quote from Nelson Mandela. I'm sure he'd tell you if he weren't dead.