Something positive about this government

Nonnie, I haven't a clue what you're talking about. I've just scrolled back through about five pages of this thread and I can't see anything. I've been doing computer work all day and have been popping in here every time I've been bored (quite often) and didn't see anything either. I'm afraid I think YOU have been very rude.

This is just how the government seems to be behaving at the moment! Pah!

I apologise for the word I ey, I didn't type it. Will you please explain who had an sbusive post removed ?

AB check the facts before making all these daft claims. Everything I have said is totally true and you have claimed a load of untruths about me. If you don't have the attention span to check then just give up and stop reiterating such rubbish.

Where in the rules is anyone given permission to command "obey"? Such * arrogance!

Anyone read David Law s book please?

Apologies to posters and moderators

Nonnie you claimed I had an abusive post removed, this is so not true , unless you were accusing another poster, if so I apologise, but there has not been a post deleted on this thread by me or anyone and if you dud mean. E I do ask for an apology,obey , thank you

Jane just give up, it is not worth it. So far I have read fabrications about my parents, been abused, been accused of saying a particular person abused me (I didn't), asked to apologise for what they said?!?. The same person said I didn't appreciate their humour but won't say what was supposed to be funny. In the face of all that it seems to be a waste of time communicating as some clearly say whatever comes into their head . Actually I feel rather sorry for someone who has to do that, must have a very unhappy life.

Jane10, with respect - you are discounting my posts .

Nonnie, I have not had a post deleted , apology would be appreciated, thank you

Pot . Kettle. Black. Make the connection Ab

Jane10, just a few poster like yourself assume what a person is thinking , not good for discussions is it?

Have I had a post deleted ?

Daphne, I love the work, I am so lucky to be taught much by the head archivist , she shares so much . Work I would recommend to anyone and the poor law is incredibly interesting, what happened after it was brought in, I suggest anyone that visits archives to read of this period take a box of tissues.

Rosesarered, you take more interest in my posts than any other poster , so saying you discount them is rather odd .

daphne you obviously haven't read everything or you would see that one was abusive and it was deleted.

It is not my opinions I am ignoring it is a statement about my parents which has nothing to do with anything I said and it a complete fabrication. In the face of such infantile behaviour I have decided to not play that person's silly games.

ab, That must be fascinating! I'm a volunteer with my local archives and I've been interested in local and family history for about 15 years. I even did some modules with the OU (when it was affordable) and a Cambridge Extramural course on local history. I've traced the lives of certain families from a small town in the North East and wrote my dissertation about them, so I know a little about social mobility. My own work/experience was another eye-opener to me.

PS. I believe Cornish tin miners also migrated to South Wales. One of my ex-husband's ancestors was one of them.

On any political thread I wait with interest for the first mention of Nazis / workhouses.

Jane I have been discounting them for a long time.

Ab your opinions are crystal clear. Explicit stating of them is not actually required. Paying any attention to them is similarly unnecessary so I will discount them henceforth.

Daphne, the very point I have bern trying - but failing - to make . I admit because I work for a county archives social history has become of such interest to me. I see the many Irish who came to Wales for the pits and ironworks, they lived in the same rows of houses . I brought up the workhouses but it is fact that this is where many ended up, now they sleep on the streets . This is because society didn't care .

Jane10, I have never said all Tory voters are evil or all labour supporters perfect, your mistake

See Government suffered quite a lot of defeats in the House of Lords. Theyhad hoped to lob an Exocet into Labours finances by changes to union fees, but even Tory Lords felt they couldn't stomach such unfairness. It was therefore voted down.

Thank you, ab. The point I'm trying to make is that my own upbringing has encouraged me to be mobile. In the last hundred or so years my ancestors have moved from London to the North East, back to London and the Home Counties to the Northwest, back to London and the South East. My eldest child is settled in Manchester and all but one of my cousins have emigrated.

I'm not afraid of 'getting on my bike' BUT I would never just send somebody out Dick Whittington-style to make his/her own way in the world. The people who survive are resourceful and resilient. Unfortunately, there are many who fall by the wayside - try finding out the backgrounds of some of the homeless in London.

I don't want to live in a society where tinkers, beggars and the homeless are a common sight on our streets, as they were in the nineteenth century. That's what happens when society forgets them.

Good for you Ab to recognise that there are all sorts of people in this world not just evil Tories and perfect Labour supporters. You assumed wrong again in my case. I am a grandmother. Neither my GF or uncles joined armies. That was not the only option available. They went abroad to find work and got it in agriculture. DS has found work in hospitality. There always options.

Great post Daphnehill, good for you recognising the fact that we are not all the same

I belong to a large extended family, my siblings and I stayed in this town as did our husbands. Our grandchildren ,most went to or hopefully will go to university, have moved away and have very good occupations , one nephew didn't do well in school has no qualifications , he is too fearful to leave this town . He does work , unfortunately on a zero contract , he wouldn't and couldn't cope with a new town, Unknown streets, strangers .

We are talking about people, some seem to forget this , what is right for some is not for others. Can all people be second hand car dealers, soldiers, politician, nurses etc? No.