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whitewave Tue 05-Apr-16 08:38:06

We can't possibly let this slip by!

Tory on Radio 4 this morning arguing that we can't tackle the "treasure islands" that we have sovereignty over as it will lose people jobs!
I was astounded. So it is fine for the Steel workers to face penury but not those who help the wealthy to hide their money.

DC implicated - won't be long before GO is mentioned.

Ana Mon 11-Apr-16 19:17:45

Er...how do you know that Annie? Are you Nonnie? If not, your post means nothing.

daphnedill Mon 11-Apr-16 19:16:49

No! It seems some people don't understand the difference between 'all', 'most' and 'some' nor do they check facts. Nothing at all to do with interpretation

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 19:06:11

As you have just done Ana

Ana Mon 11-Apr-16 19:03:15

Annie you don't have any ISAs, pensions or investments? In that case you probably don't have any offshore shares but most people do and my comment was about most people not any individual.

From that, I assumed that Nonnie meant that most people jave ISAs, pensions or investments - not that they all had offshore shares.

It's all in the interpretation of posts and how some wish to see a meaning that isn't there.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 19:02:23

A LOT of pensions are in off shore accounts. in fact when you pay into a pension you don't know where the money is going, but it is often put into accounts that maximise the profits.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 19:00:19

I actually agree with you about the 'bigger picture' and hope that some of it will be addressed.
When politicians say ' we are all in this together' we know that they themselves are well paid, and that a lot of people in this country are well paid too, we are not a whole nation on minimum wages or benefits.So it would be naive to expect us to all have the same standards of living, IMHO sayings like that are just meant to encourage people to have confidence in the government to get the deficit down.

daphnedill Mon 11-Apr-16 18:55:35

rosesarered, Nonnie claimed MOST people have offshore shares. I don't believe she was 'spot on' at all - unless you can prove otherwise.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:54:51

It makes them a government 'of the people' if enough voters have cast a vote for them.... Democracy.

daphnedill Mon 11-Apr-16 18:54:04

rosesarered, I haven't read any accusations anywhere that Cameron has acted illegally. You seem to be missing the point and ignoring people's anger, as they suffer wage freezes, unemployment, zero hours contracts, lack of investment, cuts to benefits and public services, etc. They've put up with it, because they were told we all needed to tighten our belts and were told it was 'the right thing to do'. So what IS the right thing to do? The whole thing makes a mockery of being a 'striver' (not an skiver) and part of a 'hard working family'.

In any case, as I've written before, while people are treating the Cameron family as characters in a soap opera, I think this is a sideshow to the bigger picture, which isn't been addressed, although journalists such as Aditya Chakrabortty are beginning to address it.

This isn't the end of the story.

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 18:51:43

Petra, with reducing the number of labour MP's constituencies and the sweetners they will offer I expect the tories to win the next election , doesn't make them a government of the people, just a givernment of the l'm ok Jack sod the vulnerable voters

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:49:50

Actually nonnie was spot on, a great deal of people have some other form of pension or investment, ISA etc. We may not be talking huge amounts, but even a small pension added to the state pension adds up.

Anniebach Mon 11-Apr-16 18:46:11

Nonnie, please do not patronise me and with respect if you really believe most people in this country have pensions - excluding state pension- or some other form of investment you need to mix with a wider range of the human race

Ana Mon 11-Apr-16 18:44:32

Oh, they're still hoping for some Big Revelation that will topple Cameron and his cronies once and for all - dream on...hmm

petra Mon 11-Apr-16 18:44:02

I don't know if you realise it durhamjen but even if DC killed his own Mother, the Tories will still win the next election.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:42:01

I realise it's a disappointment for some of you.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:41:15

Enough people have now said that he hasn't done any wrong, has all been legal and all taxes paid.That not good enough for you?

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:40:02

Did you watch the Daily Politics ?

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 18:38:32

You do keep saying that, roses. I'd still like to know how you know.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:38:10

Still, a lot of grans have had some fun hoping he would resign.

rosesarered Mon 11-Apr-16 18:36:21

Oh this is getting too wonderfully dotty for words! Cameron hasn't actually done anything wrong at all ( I did say earlier, let's wait and see) so now he should be' judged for being arrogant'. grin

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 18:31:26

He did not release his P60, he released his tax return, all ten pages of it.

Ana Mon 11-Apr-16 18:26:16

Naivety?

grumppa Mon 11-Apr-16 18:25:21

JC's P60 is not his tax return. Or has he released that as well? If he has, what was the point of the P60 being released?

daphnedill Mon 11-Apr-16 18:05:50

Nonnie, Where do you get your idea that MOST people have offshore shares? Approximately 50% in the UK don't have any savings at all. I don't know the figures, but I would be very surprised if most people have offshore shares.

durhamjen Mon 11-Apr-16 17:58:43

Why do you think Corbyn should have any other income other than what is on his tax return?
If you want to know, you can look at www.theyworkforyou.com