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whitewave Tue 05-Apr-16 08:38:06

We can't possibly let this slip by!

Tory on Radio 4 this morning arguing that we can't tackle the "treasure islands" that we have sovereignty over as it will lose people jobs!
I was astounded. So it is fine for the Steel workers to face penury but not those who help the wealthy to hide their money.

DC implicated - won't be long before GO is mentioned.

Penstemmon Fri 08-Apr-16 09:01:21

It is the lies and denial that make his PMship so arrogant and imo untenable.

Anniebach Fri 08-Apr-16 09:00:22

That's enough to make many vote out , Sod Europe, let's get shot of this crooked, lying , PM

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 08:57:29

He will go immediately if he looses referendum

Anniebach Fri 08-Apr-16 08:51:54

Surely he will not hang on after the annual Tory party conference . He will stand down before so the new leader can take centre stage

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 08:38:30

This is a good exercise in watching the filthy rich now trying to put the lid which has slipped a little, back on. They usually find it easy to shut the rest of us up.

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 08:21:53

Some idiot on the radio is still claiming that we are still all in this together, and that the rich still pay relatively more tax. Where do they find these people?

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 08:06:55

Well folks our morally upstanding I believe in absolute fairness leader is going to publish his tax returns for total transparency. Didn't he promise that once before? Still waiting.

Over to you now Gideon - how is your off shore nice little earner doing?

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 01:04:06

www.debbieabrahams.org.uk/2016/the-panama-papers-more-evidence-of-a-them-us-world

The government needs to put more money into HMRC staffing.
Will it? I'd like a u-turn on that.
They'll spin it as helping the employment figures, even though they got rid of 6000 staff between 2013 and 2015.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:54:24

I like the one about Atos. He'd have to lose his job first, but that should be easy.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:53:30

www.thecanary.co/2016/04/07/twitter-enters-armageddon-david-cameron-admits-profited-tax-dodging-tweets/

Can anyone think of any worse curses?

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:46:13

www.actionaid.org.uk/campaign/campaign-to-make-tax-fair/demand-action-on-panama-papers-tax-havens?utm_campaign=6965142_ACT1604PP1&utm_content=Button%201&utm_medium=email&utm_source=dotmailer.com&campaign_code=6965142_ACT1604PP1&dm_i=21O5,45AC6,L0LKRO,F2KVO,1#iFrameResponsive

Another petition to sign for Cameron at next months meeting to stamp out corruption.
Sign them all and he might get the message.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:28:54

evolvepolitics.com/george-osborne-personally-benefited-property-sale-tax-dodging-company/

George Osborne, at last. I wonder what he will say about this.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:16:51

act.one.org/sign/trillion_dollar/?t=3&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&akid=7935.6964335.tyW3i8

For the meeting in London next month.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:09:44

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/04/07/would-you-be-proud-of-your-dad-if-hed-run-a-business-based-in-a-tax-haven/

This is brilliant.

Isn't Osborne and Little registered in Ireland, a tax haven?

Apparently authors do not have to pay tax in Dublin. Osborne does create a lot of fiction, doesn't he?

whitewave Thu 07-Apr-16 22:32:44

Dear oh dear - one lesson on how not to behave once you've been rumbled.

George Osborne is sitting tight I notice - as usual. No answers as to why his family company has paid no UK tax for the past 7 years.

Anniebach Thu 07-Apr-16 22:27:35

He really is a toad, wouldn't be at all surprised if he didn't resign after the referendum

daphnedill Thu 07-Apr-16 21:33:29

Oh dear! For an ex-PR man Cameron has really messed up!

He's finally admitted he did have shares in his father's company, but sold them before he became PM. It wasn't a massive amount of money, so why didn't he just man up and say he wasn't responsible for what his father did and admit he'd had the shares, but realised it was morally wrong to hold them?

He could even have paid the capital gains tax on them and I don't suppose it would have dented his finances much.

I'm afraid it doesn't look good and I'm sure there will be people scrutinising every one of his publicly available financial statements.

Personally, what gets me is that this man and his followers have the b****y nerve to lecture the rest of us about 'the right thing to do'.

Anniebach Thu 07-Apr-16 19:21:02

No surprise with Gordon Brown, a good man with a great sense of humour and much compassion. The Blair coven and the Tory press attacked him and people believed what was written

whitewave Thu 07-Apr-16 18:26:31

Good grief! There are some people who are greedy and there are some people who are VERY GREEDY!

Eloethan Thu 07-Apr-16 18:13:38

I am not a great fan of Gordon Brown or most of his then Labour colleagues, but this is what the Telegraph said back in 2010 regarding Prime Ministers' pensions and what GB claims:-

"Regardless of how long he or she serves, any former Prime Minister is entitled to half his £194,250 salary index-linked against inflation for the rest of his life. Mr Brown voluntarily waived his right to this payment – but the entitlement remains in legislation for whoever his successor might be; even if they only hold the post for a few months." (I think there might be some sort of review taking place as to the fairness of this sort of arrangement).

"........ Gordon Brown and Jack Straw have entered into voluntary agreements, which means they have refused to benefit from the arrangement regardless of legislation.

"Mike Warburton of accountants Grant Thornton commented: “Whatever the outcome of the current negotiations to form a coalition government in this hung Parliament, we now have the prospect of a party leader, elected or otherwise, taking residence in number 10 and finding his or her stay is a short one.

“That will not prevent them immediately qualifying for a 50 per cent index-linked government backed pension for life. It makes the cries in the various political parties’ manifestos for ‘fairness’ ring rather hollow as we all prepare ourselves for a period of austerity.”

According to an article in the Daily Mail in 2012, David Cameron has also waived his entitlement to half his salary, index-linked against inflation for the rest of his life.

However, the DM also reported that Tony Blair receives £75,000 per year (which will increase as it is index-linked against inflation) and £115,000 for "public duties" (whatever that means), plus £250,000 per year for "security". In my view, for someone who has an estimated fortune of £30 million, he has got some nerve.

whitewave Thu 07-Apr-16 13:39:19

Well its a start what about all the other companies dealing and aiding in these issues? Apparently there are loads of them.

durhamjen Thu 07-Apr-16 13:36:40

"The UK’s financial regulator has handed banks and financial businesses a deadline of next week to check if they have links to a law firm at the centre of the Panama Papers leak.

The Financial Conduct Authority has told banks they have until April 15 to investigate whether they have ties to Mossack Fonseca or firms which are managed by the company, according to a letter seen by the Financial Times. "

This is going to be intriguing.

durhamjen Thu 07-Apr-16 12:02:05

Someone will find out if he has, now he's stuck his head above the parapet.

whitewave Thu 07-Apr-16 11:59:45

Probably has an off shore account

durhamjen Thu 07-Apr-16 11:57:05

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/04/07/fisking-robert-peston-on-tax-avoidance/

Robert Peston is stcking up for the Camerons. Is he after a knighthood, or a lordship?