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Celebrities, injunctions and the Archbishop,of Canterbury- do we care?

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suzied Sun 10-Apr-16 07:45:58

Just having a look at the news, and I know these stories aren't connected , but I wondered- should celebrities be able to stop the papers printing stuff about their private lives especially when it is all over the Internet? Do we care who the A of C's father was? Interesting gossip or an interesting insight into family lives? I have to say I have read both stories and I was interested, but should I be?

Stansgran Tue 12-Apr-16 11:09:06

I'm amazed that anyone should be interested in this day and age. I wondered at the motives of the person who brought it to Welby's attention and hope it wasn't malicious. Especially as it was a time of emotional importance for him. I thought Welby was a good man and a good bishop in the short time he was in Durham. And as for the initials kerfuffle . Do I care? No. Or perhaps I do as I certainly wouldn't want to know them.

GillT57 Tue 12-Apr-16 10:39:00

If I was looking for a conspiracy theory, I would say that The Telegraph ( owned by tax dodging Barclay Brothers) is filling the pages with this gossip rather than the tax affairs of the rich and infamous, like them. As for the other business, everyone has guessed, nobody cares, get over yourselves and take care of the children that you profess to love.

POGS Tue 12-Apr-16 10:13:07

What do you mean Grumppa?

Iam64 Tue 12-Apr-16 08:49:23

exactly -

grumppa Tue 12-Apr-16 08:46:26

Just shows the Torygraph and its readers are no different from the red tops and theirs.

Iam64 Tue 12-Apr-16 08:26:45

The way Justin Welby has responded to this information is a lesson to us all, especially those of us of the Jeremy Kyle persuasion. I admire his mother, who acknowledges having been dependent on alcohol but sober now for (I think) 50 years. JW's step father has been his father and seems to have been a very good influence. All this talk of 'real' rather than biological fathers needs knocking on the head. The 'real' father is the one (or more than two) men who fulfil that role.

As for the celeb 3some - I read the British Celeb couple involved have an open relationship so it seems hypocritical to use their children as the emotional blackmail to stop their names being publicised. All over the internet, US and Scottish press anyway

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 11-Apr-16 10:52:48

I thought I must be missing something when I saw all the reports about the AofC because I don't understand why it's such a big story.

I know who is involved in the injunction tosh and TBH I'm a bit disappointed in the person. Obviously I don't know him personally, but I think it's a shame for certain reasons. I'm not surprised he's trying to cover up his behaviour. It's another example that we're all human.

obieone Mon 11-Apr-16 10:38:27

Ah but celebrities like hoohaa on the whole. Part of how they make their money.

thatbags Mon 11-Apr-16 08:56:48

Exactly, suzied. Welby just goes "Wotevs" and moves on. End of story.

The press is always looking for salacious gossip. If you just shrug and don't make it a big deal, it's not salacious so they go and look elsewhere.

suzied Mon 11-Apr-16 07:33:10

The celebrity injunction couple should take a leaf out of Justin Welby!s book, he has shown humanity and dignity. If they'd just admitted it and got on with their lives, whether that is threesmes with strangers rubbing olive oil all over each other or whatever, there wouldn't be all this press hooha.

Deedaa Sun 10-Apr-16 22:54:07

A few years ago the BBC were doing DNA tests on a village. Most of the inhabitants were fascinated to find out where their ancestors had come from, but the "Lady of the Manor" was going ballistic because they had found Gypsy DNA in her family. She was going to sue the BBC for suggesting such a thing. I thought it sounded really romantic and decided that one of the squires must have been unable to sire an heir so his lady had bedded a passing gypsy. So much more interesting than her own marriage!

SueDonim Sun 10-Apr-16 17:27:14

I'm an amateur family history addict, sparked by trying to find out who my grandparents were, as I didn't know, so from a FH point of view, the AOC story is interesting. It also shows that just because you discover who your ancestors are on paper doesn't mean they're actually your kith and kin!

The 'threesome' celeb story I don't think is interesting in itself but it's interesting as it being a 'one law for the rich' situation. Their names were published in Scotland today anyway. grin

POGS Sun 10-Apr-16 15:29:52

Some stories I guess are interesting but I do wonder what century we live in when being illegitimate is news.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 10-Apr-16 11:43:14

Come on Bags! Use it! hmm

Anniebach Sun 10-Apr-16 11:27:22

No idea if she is upset, I did say possibly upset ,she may be delighted that it is now public that she had a one night stand very shortly before her marriage

thatbags Sun 10-Apr-16 11:25:33

So, in answer to the OP, no, I don't care but I do like the story. It's like something out of a novel.

thatbags Sun 10-Apr-16 11:18:44

Is Mrs Welby senior upset? I thearticle I read I didn't get that impression. She may even be secretly delighted. I hope so.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 10-Apr-16 11:15:02

Of course there's nothing wrong with being illegitimate. Happens to the best us. smile

But the whole thing has been very cruel to his mother. The journalist is a male bitch. hmm

Teetime Sun 10-Apr-16 11:12:58

DH said the A of Cs story (in which I am supremely uninterested) was to detract the attention from David Cameron - what an old cynic - but is he right?

Anniebach Sun 10-Apr-16 11:08:21

Mollie, it's what newspapers do. All this has done is possibly cause upset to an 80 year old woman

thatbags Sun 10-Apr-16 11:04:44

It's interesting gossip, as you say, suzied. That's all. A lot of people like interesting gossip. What harm is there in it? None, as far as I can see. So the Archbishop of Canterbury's dad isn't who he (or his mum) thought he was. Shrug.

Why shouldn't the press and the rest of us 'forgive' his mother? She hasn't sinned against us or the press. The one thing I like about such stories, not that I look for them but I'll read them if they're made public enough on news sites, is that it shows human beings as human beings, which is always rather sweet.

mollie Sun 10-Apr-16 10:57:11

Certainly 'end of' but the question now is why did the Daily Telegraph feel the need to dig about in this bit of dirty washing in the first place? What did they hope to do? Embarrass Justin Welby? For what purpose?

Anniebach Sun 10-Apr-16 09:40:14

He was approached by Charles Moore and a newspaper, he then decided to have a DNA test and chose to make the facts known himself , so he did the right thing, stopped bits of nudge,wink, in the press . End of now .

trisher Sun 10-Apr-16 08:56:26

Couldn't care less really. It's something far more widespread than most think. Researchers into Huntingdon's Chorea found this genetically carried illness in families where it shouldn't have been. Their only solution was that some children had been fathered by someone other than the man they believed to be their dad. It's a wise child.......

rosesarered Sun 10-Apr-16 08:47:22

I wondered why it was 'news' didn't know if the decision to go public was done willingly or forced upon him. What a non story anyway.