Hillsborough verdict

Truth, justice whatever word is used of course I feel for the relatives and admire their determination.
I also feel for others like kitty's family who suffered from just being there.

You are on topic, I admit I have mixed feelings today so possibly too emotional ,sorry . I do understand about letting go and finding peace, I have experienced this and I am thankful I was able to let go of anger etc , but it is difficult

We can but hope that those families who fought so hard for justice will now find some peace. It cannot have been easy to have to relive the nightmare over and over again, especially for those who suffered nightmarish repercussions from being immediately involved, the imagination runs riot in the small hours of the nigh;. whatever the outcome of these "findings" the horror will stay with them, and we can only wish them peace in the future.
There is to be a police investigation, obviously, and I am quite sure that there are a number of police officers who were on duty that day, who also relive the scenes over and over in their minds and possibly suffer the same nightmares.

I can see that my post is quite confusing.
My last paragraph is not necessarily or really talking about the Hillsborough families, and since this is a Hillsborough thread, I will attempt to keep largely on topic.

Not quite sure what you mean sorry , if the Hillsborough families hadn't fought for the truth who else would have ?

I think justice means truth too. I think.

But there is also peace. And also the concept of "rather be wronged".
I think sometimes we are supposed to let go and have peace[not sure I at all mean that in the circumstances on this thread]. I think it partly depends on whether, if by getting justice, then the same wrong things dont happen again and to others.

I think people also have to be careful not to damage their present by say alienating those around them by pursuing something that perhaps others could pursue with less damage if you see what I mean.

Kitty I feel sorry for your son, I went through therapy but still haunted . Can the families of the victims leave it to lie? I doubt could. The CPS are now viewing it so I don't think there will be any prosecutions , I await 'lessons will be learned ' which really means the police must make sure their lies cannot be uncovered

I agree with Ann. DH and DS2 were there and it has had a lasting impact on them, DS2 particularly. I'm terribly sad for the families and for their loss. I admire them for seeking answers but, for the sake of the survivors, it should be left to lie - though I doubt it will.

As it was in the days before mobile phones our other children and I were worried sick watching it unfold on the television. DFiL was also worried sick and permanently on the phone asking if we had heard anything. I spent my time trying to calm him whilst trying to get him off the phone in case DH and DS, who had unusually gone on the supporter's bus, were trying to ring us.

DS still has nightmares about it, despite various therapies, and his nightmares are much worse when it is in the news.

I hope the families find peace now.

oh sorry, just seen someone's mentioned it earlier

the verdict is in apparently - the victims were unlawfully killed and now they're considering whether to bring criminal charges

As someone who was at the Aberfan disaster I know how these families feel and why they have fought so hard and for so long.

Nina, justice is truth,i don't care what a dictionary says sorry , if there is to be justice then there has to be truth

It's very easy, as an outsider, to say that life must go on. I'm very fortunate that I've never lost anybody close in such a tragic way.

It was important for the relatives of those who died to seek justice. I don't think I can ever truly know how they feel.

Don't forget that the victims were 'blamed' by certain sectors of the media. To this day, I understand that people in Liverpool still boycott the Sun.

Dictionary definition:
Fairness in the way people are dealt with.

Not the same as truth Annie

Justice at last, the victims were innocent

Surely justice means truth

Yes justice must be fought for and we can have a personal opinion of what we think that would be. However as outsiders we will never know what the verdict should be.
I agree with annsixty

Justice must always be fought for surely ?

My hope is that they will all accept the verdict whichever way it goes and then try to get on with the rest of their lives for their own sake and that of their loved ones.
I can understand their anguish but also can see from other people that life must go on. I am not being hard or unsympathetic here, I am trying, perhaps very clumsily, to point out they have a life to live and now they should try and live it.