Should we be worried about right-wing populism?

Thank you thatbags for pointing out the rudeness a few posts back.

It already has with excessive political correctness, with calling people racists who aren't, with saying islamic terrorism has nothing to do with islam, and more.
So much so that I feel I have to qualify what I've just said by saying that I'm being critical, in that last part, of some islamic ideas and I'm not talking about most muslims whihc, of course, should be is perfectly obvious to anyone with any sense.

I take your point about social media pogs but it is not a political phenomena and that is a world of difference to what we are talking about.

Not clear where the evidence is coming from relating to the rise opinion left wing populism as your post suggests

Why not?

Agreed, but left populism has no chance of influencing the current political climate.

Should we be worried about right wing populism, possibly.
Should we be worried about left wing populism , possibly.

Should we be worried about right wing populism throughout Europe, probably.
Should we be worried about left wing populism throughout Europe, probably.

Should we be worried about the rise in social media racism, bullying, verbal abuse, vitriolic language , belittling, insulting behaviour due to anonimity, MOST DEFINATELY.

Hatred comes in many forms and it is the individual who decides how to behave. Right wing/Left wing are terms used
for the collective grouping of individuals but social media is by far the worse method of showing hatred, displeasure as it takes so many forms.

Example death threats to MP's who voted for further action into Syria , death threats to MP's for standing against their leader, Anti semitism, cyber bullying , trolling, revenge porn etc. etc.

So right wing/ left wing populism is a concern but the downright evil behind having anonymity on social media is just as corrosive to society.

^they are so naive, so ignorant of facts, that they blame it all on immigration.

That above is rude, patronising and just yuck. I doubt if any of it is strictly true either, though it may contain some truth. I'm surprised more people don't see it as rude and dismissive.^

Sorry, I don't see it as 'rude', because it's true to an extent. It was evident in some of the reasons people gave for voting Leave and no amount of reasoning dissuaded them from the myths.

Patronising? Only if you were one of the people who was duped. Arron Banks has admitted that people aren't interested in facts and appeals to the emotions are more successful. Frankly, I'm not impressed that a major constitutional change meant no more to some people than what happens next in a soap.

Yuck? I can think of many things which are far yuckier - lying on an industrial scale, as we saw from the Leave compaign, being one.

Should we be worried about right-wing populism?

Well I think it's already here.

Theirs that woman who can't satisfy her husband in USA.
Theirs May here.
Not to mention the woman who lets all the immigrants in Germany.

" I doubt if any of it is strictly true either, though it may contain some truth."

This doesn't make sense to me, bags.
Either some of it is true or it isn't.
Doubtless I have misunderstood you yet again, but we do not all nuance what we say as well as you.

they are so naive, so ignorant of facts, that they blame it all on immigration.

That above is rude, patronising and just yuck. I doubt if any of it is strictly true either, though it may contain some truth. I'm surprised more people don't see it as rude and dismissive.

The intelligent wing of the Leave campaign is now distancing itself from the naive and ignorant , and decent, sincere Leavers are understandably upset at being labelled racist and nationalistic.

I have distanced myself all along from the name-calling by some Remainers. I'm not terribly bothered if someone calls me a racist because I know they are mistaken about that. I deplore the lazy dumping of large groups of people into the category 'racist' with no real effort to understand their grievances. I think maman is right that Ukip has benefited from this lazy dumping. Traditional Labour supporters are fed up of not being listened to so they've done what gives two fingers to the rude people labelling them in the spirit of if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
I'm amazed anyone's surprised by this.

What an unbelievable mess. Our parliamentary democracy has been trounced by what is just an advisory referendum

"Tounced". No. Upheld. Yes, legally speaking it is an advisory result. Giving advice and instruction to government is what the electorate is for in a democracy.

Ten -the post does not say all leavers are the same

Why?

I would like to know who else would like to add their name to the list.

The post is awful.

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8 - read the post slowly twice, just in case, and definitely 8.

LOL 7 - ridiculous behaviour to take out random words and say they are "rude"

....six.....

I think you are just having a laugh. You can't be getting it that wrong.

naive
ignorant
blame it all on immigration
insecure people
always seek a scapegoat

can't be bothered to copy out more

I actually think people dont realise what is rude anymore.

Five. We can't all be stupid and hoodwinked.

Naive? Ignorant of the facts? Both mean not knowing anything more than the surface, and being easily taken in by those who manipulate the apparent truth and play on fears and desires. So many people who were ignorant of who was the biggest employer in their area, not just in their car factory, but indirectly of the makers of parts!

Rude? More like and

Yes, there is a lot of naivety and ignorance of the facts about. Lots of it!!!

Four of us...

That makes three of us failing to spot any rudeness form mamanC then.

You two cant see it which says it all.

Very good point about Labour supporters defecting to UKIP. Left wing to righ wing. Never thought about that.

Though I often things are more in a circle than a line. But even so. hmm.

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