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Possible contentious poster launched by the Remain Campaign to galvanise the black vote

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TerriBull Fri 27-May-16 10:34:35

I don't know how many of you have seen the poster in which an elderly and very serene Indian lady wearing a sari is sitting on one end of a seesaw facing a scary looking, snarling skinhead posed in an aggressive finger jabbing stance. Could the implication be that Brexiteers are white racists sad. There is a supposition from some on the remain side that anyone wishing to leave must be white, which is contrary to some of the televised debates I have seen where black and Asian voters have voiced their voting intentions and they do not always lie with the remain campaign. I watched the opening of QT last night and the black lady on the panel made it clear that she was a Brexiteer. The implied message on the poster seems to be therefore that black people should vote to remain, if not, they could be aligning themselves with a bunch of nasty white racists. Personally I haven't seen anyone dressed in that skinhead style circa 1970s and 1980s for a long while. However, maybe I'm looking it from the wrong point of view possibly the message is more ambiguous, given that the nasty racist skinhead is far more prolific in Eastern Europe, could the poster be trying to imply "vote in" and we will be bedfellows with a rising tide of right wing nationalism which is the subject of another thread on GN. Anyone have an opinion on this poster?

Anya Sun 29-May-16 06:09:19

It is saying, register to vote or the fellow on the other end of the see saw will have his say over yours.

If it was a young person against an aggressive pensioner that would be the same message.

So it's more than just 'register to vote' there's a subliminal message saying ...or.....

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 28-May-16 23:17:12

It's saying that, and a little bit more, to those it's directed at. Perhaps you have to be living their life to understand it. Maybe they see the meaning immediately.

thatbags Fri 27-May-16 21:16:50

I think what it's saying is perfectly clear: it doesn't matter who you are or with what demographic or political group you identify, your vote is equal to anyone else's. So make sure you're registered.

Simple.

rosesarered Fri 27-May-16 20:58:12

Saatchi and Saatchi have done some odd stuff in the past, they like to be talked about
And we are talking .grin

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:34:24

No! There's nothing to complain about. Unless the racist yobs don't like it. And they can stuff it can't they?

rosesarered Fri 27-May-16 20:29:58

Already wrote what I think, but it is perhaps meant to be a bit on the ambiguous side, so that nobody can complain about it.

Jalima Fri 27-May-16 20:29:53

Whatever it is supposed to portray, I think that Saatchi and Saatchi have got it badly wrong.

The fact that we are not clear about what it is supposed to portray proves that.

But they won't care as they watch their millions pile up in the bank.

whitewave Fri 27-May-16 20:27:14

Probably. Always supposing she sees it. Not sure where it is going to put up.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:24:34

It's quite a clever poster. After all it is by Saatchi. But I don't think the old lady herself would 'get it'. So perhaps money wasted.

whitewave Fri 27-May-16 20:23:57

Yes jing it is all about getting out the black vote. Nothing about how to vote.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:22:43

Righto-o roses. grin

Let's hear your explanation of the poster.

rosesarered Fri 27-May-16 20:22:05

Shows how we see differing things eh?

rosesarered Fri 27-May-16 20:20:59

grin sorry!

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:20:43

I think people like that old lady probably get their confidence knocked a lot by racists in some parts of the country. They probably think it's best to keep themselves to themselves.

rosesarered Fri 27-May-16 20:20:39

In your view Jingl the OP has it wrong, but in my book the OP has it right.

whitewave Fri 27-May-16 20:16:53

Yep I agree with you jing There is always a problem getting the black vote out, this is an attempt at mitigating that.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:12:27

The OP has got it completely wrong. grin (sorry)

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:11:16

It's certainly nothing to do with 'in' or 'out'. Just, vote.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 20:10:18

It's supposed to be telling 'ethnic' groups that their vote is as important as anyone else's. I can see that. I guess it means, 'don't be put off by the usual bad behaviour you get from yobbish types in your everyday life'. Very sad really. And the message doesn't exactly jump out at you.

Anya Fri 27-May-16 19:51:55

There is a message there and I see what the OP was getting at.

rosesarered Fri 27-May-16 19:49:03

dd anecdotes may not be 'evidence' ( who said they were?) but they are real and happened as you know to your cost as do I.
It may not be a remain poster, but sure sounds like it, otherwise, what the hell is it saying, and for what exactly? If it was only to get black people to vote ( how patronising) btw they would not have made it of a skinhead threatening an old Asian lady, so of course it was meant to represent a remain poster ( no matter what they say!)
has anyone here actually seen a skinhead for years.... Apart from in other countries in Europe.

daphnedill Fri 27-May-16 19:38:48

It's obviously saying different things to different people.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 27-May-16 19:15:08

this is the poster

I can't understand just what it is supposed to be saying. confused

daphnedill Fri 27-May-16 19:05:46

@rosesarered By coincidence, I was called a 'dirty f***ing c**t@ and physically assaulted just two weeks ago...by my white England flag flying neighbour! He regularly swears at delivery drivers and told one to 'f**k off back to where he came from'.

The police are involved, so I won't say any more, but anecdotes aren't really evidence.

daphnedill Fri 27-May-16 19:01:42

@rosesarered This isn't a Remain poster! There is nothing on the poster nor, as far as I can see, on OBV's website to encourage people to vote one way or the other.

It's a poster designed to get black and minority voters to register to vote. At the moment, there is evidence that many of them aren't registered. Who knows which way they'll vote?