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Undecideds - have you decided?

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kittylester Thu 23-Jun-16 07:48:58

I think I'm going for 'Remain' but I'm still not definite.confused

petra Thu 23-Jun-16 12:33:23

ChrissyH I love people with a good memory. They want to fine us for doing well but ignore France who never stick to their austerity measures. But no surprises there as the French have always been the Germans poodle.

Craftycat Thu 23-Jun-16 12:28:29

MY DH was undecided. He filled out his postal vote but left the voting slip blanK & gave it to me to put the cross in. His argument was he thought there have been dodgy dealings on both sides but he has not watched every single TV & radio programme about referendum as I have. He therefore feels I am more informed & as I feel passionately about it I should decide his vote.
I thought that was a really lovely thing to do
So another OUT vote!!
Even if letting unelected people make our laws wasn't enough then the animal welfare issue was the last straw for me.

Ruth1958 Thu 23-Jun-16 12:26:51

If people like the suffragettes hadn't dared to go against the system and go for change we would still be stuck in a world ruled by just makes. If you want a fairer world and not just insular Europe be brave and invite US to choose who makes our rules. Don't just stay if you are afraid if change.

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 12:25:21

kitty- it is not easy- and you'll have to listen to your guts and heart, and your head too. At the end of the day, you can only do 'your best' - as long as you've had an open mind and listened to all sides and 'studied' arguments from all angles best you can.

Bonne chance x

ninathenana Thu 23-Jun-16 12:18:41

To answer the question in the op.

I was undecided but leaning one way until something I read about an hour ago. I now know I'm voting the other way.

Marieeliz Thu 23-Jun-16 12:14:25

Just as well some of us are still alive who remember. The young no nothing of what went on. We have very little say in the EU. The Common Market was one thing. It has gone too far now, and will go further if we don't vote out.

Marieeliz Thu 23-Jun-16 12:10:52

They did not come in until they were forced to.

earnshaw Thu 23-Jun-16 12:09:59

OUT,defiinitely

varian Thu 23-Jun-16 12:07:59

harrigan - you never did provide the evidence to back up your ludicrous statement about the number of EU employees who are paid more than David Cameron. Far too many meaningless slogans and lies have been peddled by the leavers and sadly there are a lot of people willing to believe nonsense without checking the facts.

I have voted REMAIN and can only hope that we get a decisive positive result. If you don't like it and want to go to Australia, I'm afraid that you may not qualify under the Australian points system, but if you do, then good luck.

Brits don't quit - VOTE REMAIN

chrissyh Thu 23-Jun-16 12:07:24

When I was undecided somebody asked what I would do if this was a referendum to join the EU. I know I wouldn't join now with the economies of many EU countries so volatile. We were charged an extra £1.7 billion because our economy was doing so well (a sum, by the way, that Cameron said there was not way we would pay). If we are going to do so well by staying in the EU, as the remain predict, I dread to think how much extra we will have to pay.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 12:03:45

It wasn't the Germans your parents fought against but a vicious racist xenophobic ideology that we must be careful never returns.

nanalounet Thu 23-Jun-16 12:02:54

This is my first post on Gransnet, so here goes !

What a lot of people do not realise is that this referendum is actually a "Consultation of opinion", not a "thats it we are IN or OUT" Article 50 of the EU convention means that it can take many years before Britain leaves, if in fact it does at all.

I am old enough to remember the original Common Market decision, made at a time when Britain still had a manufacturing industry of some sort, and also skills level and education were much better than they are at the moment (my opinion, nothing else). On balance I know that I shall vote to remain firmly IN.

townie Thu 23-Jun-16 12:02:14

How sad some people still seem to be living in the past and nursing old enmities.

Marieeliz Thu 23-Jun-16 12:00:55

Have voted leave by postal vote. I am tired of being told by others that we cannot do things. Especially Germany who my parents fought against for freedom. Not to be dictated to by them.

Tessa101 Thu 23-Jun-16 11:55:44

Out, I want my country back the one my dear dad fought for.

harrigran Thu 23-Jun-16 11:54:33

I am an out voter and am being called a little Englander and other names by my DS, the same one that didn't want his sister to go and work in Brussels. These young know alls would do well to remember that it is the grey pound that is propping them up and the bank of mam and dad will not be here forever. If the vote is remain I will seriously consider taking myself and my money to Australia or New Zealand.

merlotgran Thu 23-Jun-16 11:51:58

I voted out and was proud to have done so.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 11:48:54

Yep marj so right.

Vote REMAIN and be proud to have done so.

townie Thu 23-Jun-16 11:47:18

Just to support anglo on her correction of the delusion that we 'defeated Hitler almost alone'. I find it frightening that people with so little knowledge of history are going to vote and may affect the rest of us.

Marjgran Thu 23-Jun-16 11:46:57

What a depressing thread... It isn't about 1975, it is about NOW. Look at the wider picture. There are lots of good reasons for voting either way and good ordinary people who will vote either way. But the bigger picture? There are few wise heavy hitters on the leave side for very good reason. Not the economy for me, but the big sweep of history. The eu will reform over Time because many people want it to. Who wants us out? Some very suspect forces indeed, however respectable some ordinary folk are. Yes, we need reform, but there are dangerous forces in the world and we need to be part of big teams or we will be squashed. Over and out as I go to vote remain and keep my fingers crossed.

emilie Thu 23-Jun-16 11:46:09

sorry,same message appeared twice

jack44 Thu 23-Jun-16 11:45:35

It saddens me to see Great Britain being dictated to, and echo Rosina`s sentiment. It is OUT for me.

emilie Thu 23-Jun-16 11:44:13

IN,IN IN.

emilie Thu 23-Jun-16 11:41:45

IN,IN IN.

glennamy Thu 23-Jun-16 11:40:29

Vote with your head & heart and #VoteLeave