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whitewave when I signed the petition I had to wait quite a while before the email came through. I think the site is working at its limit. I hear that it crashed this morning, there was so much traffic.

My nine year old grand daughter is in tears because her best friend's family are planning to go back to Poland as they think they are no longer welcome in this country. We've told her that no-one in our family voted for this but I suppose it is exactly the result many Brexiters want.

Fine talking about your family, but not implying that people you pass in the street who voted Leave had a personal grudge against them!

There was also a hint that the 75k safety valve on bank accounts might go as well. Is that because they are worried about the banks?

Another hundred thousand already.

Typically nasty, Ana.
I would think there are a lot of EU migrants in this country who feel unwanted at the moment, and yes, some of them are in my family.
I was just showing that it is about people we know, not just numbers. What's wrong with that?
Every EU nurse or doctor working for the NHS has family here.
Every EU builder or farm labourer could also have family either living here or whom they wanted to bring here. But not now.
Yes, I talk about my family to show the human side of it.
My other son could be made redundant at Christmas. He's taught in the same school for over 20 years. His wife is Spanish. If he is made redundant, they will move to Spain next year as they feel wanted there. She does not feel wanted here.
All choices have consequences, even for you, Ana. I do hope you do not complain about the triple lock going on pensions.

And me

I have signed it. Where can I find the bit about rules that have to be met please?

OK thanks

I think the site has already crashed once today Whitewave because of the number of people wanting to sign. Just keep trying

By the way, I started without a penny, when I die, all the assets I have worked for will go effort free to my family and I am pleased that I can do that,

Trisher
I don't know what generation you are from, but I know that I strove to give my children a far better life than I ever had. To this day I live on a weekly amount that many youth spend on a night out. We were brought up in a saving culture which resulted in money for deposits, holidays abroad were only for the rich, most girls had a 'bottom drawer' saving for marriage. My first marital home was a two up one down, no bath, cold water only and toilet at the bottom of the garden. Furniture all second hand. Would kids today tolerate this?
I worked hard, paid for my own tertiary education and having worked from the age of 16 (whereas most children do not start work until around 23) to retirement I worked my way into a good employment position and paid for my own home which incidentally I only bough 4 years ago. It was not a show house, needed work, but at least it had hot water and an internal toilet thus time

I have signed but there is no email coming through? I wonder if there is something wrong with it

Oh, it's always got to be about you, hasn't it dj? I doubt anyone voted to leave just because they didn't want your relatives to live here...

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215/signatures/new

Welshwife, 1.1 million now, a million more signatures than needed. When does parliament go back?

Those of you who voted to leave, that's 38% of those eligible, you do know that if Boris becomes PM, that we will be stuck with Farage in the House of Lords for ever, don't you?

I've just been down to the village to get a paper, and couldn't help wondering which of the people I passed and spoke to actually do not want my grandson and his mum and sister to live here.

I only know two people who voted Leave. One is the 34 year old girl who does my pedicure and the other a 70 year old man with his own business.

It's the name calling, backbiting, blame apportioning that I can't stand. We are where we are - see it as an exciting few months, hang on for dear life and enjoy.

I find the hysteria about the suffering that the older generation have inflicted on the youth quite flabbergasting. The older generation in most part are the ones who truly cherish the generations following, how many grandparents hate their grandchildren and go out of their way to hurt or make them suffer. I really want to know exactly what future they perceive has been given away.
This unproven media scaremongering must stop or at least be ignored, it it like a feeding frenzy in a piranha tank. How can anyone truly say how it will be. Yes there may be a bit of a bumpy ride for a while, but would it be any better if we stayed in would we just be putting off the inevitable misery until later when eventually the union implodes as history shows is an an almost odds on bet.

NotTooOld

I think the squabbling between MPs made it hard for people to make a balanced decison so they based their choice on one or two things they heard on the tV/read in the papers and it never occurred to them that politicians tell lies to suit their own personal agenda.

Why the assumption that most young people voted 'in'? In fact, I made the same assumption myself but I have encountered several young people since the referendum result who tell me they voted 'out', some of them adding that they thought 'in' would win and were perturbed when it didn't. What do we make of that?

Yesterday some news reporter interviewed a woman living on benefits how she would be affected by Brexit.

She said something along the lines of 'how can it affect me when I had nothing to start with'

So much scummy fodder for the media, they must think all their birthdays rolled into one. Hysteria, and more lies to follow no doubt.

David Cameron offered us this referendum. People made a choice dependent upon their own life experience. It was a majority vote to leave, so therefore half of the population are thick eh?

I don't think so

But the majority of young people voted 'in' Anya and it is they who will suffer the most. I didn't say 'you' meaning anything personal (although you seem to have taken it as such) but meant anyone who voted out based on false information, outdated ideals and prejudice and without considering the effects for younger people. I think there are an awful lot of older people who fail to realise that the good life they have had has not been entirely because of their own efforts but also because of a supportive welfare state that is now seriously at risk, and their unwillingness to provide the same for younger people shocks me.
How is anyone going to "make it work"? You can't take the engine out a car and tell everyone it will go perfectly well if they push hard enough!

'And if you voted 'out' then at least you admit you don't give a toss about young people and their opinion'

What a load of judgmental, opinionated tosh.

And don't assume I voted 'out' either. As an educated, non-bigoted, savvy woman I am able to look at both sides of the arguement and discard all the posturing and misinformation thrown around by both sides.

It seems to me that many were not able to do that, otherwise they would adopt the attitude 'what's done is done, so let's get on with making it work' as has Elegran for example, whom I'm assuming from the Edinburgh statistics was one of the majority in that city who voted 'remain'.

Sorry I fully understand young people, who have suffered greatly from the cuts and changes, who look at my generation and see people who were given free education, reasonably priced housing, good pensions and benefits and who seem unwilling to provide the same things for their children and grandchildren and who have now voted for action which will devastate their lives, finding this the last straw. I voted to stay in but I am shocked at the attitude of many of my generation who seem to believe all the rubbish they have been fed by UKIP and Farage. If I were a young person now I would be thinking of civil disobedience to show how disenchanted I was.And if you voted 'out' then at least admit you don't give a toss about young people or their opinions.

oldgoat I read one of those anti-old folk rants on FB and a hurt reprimand comment from the poster's mother. Some people, and it's an increasing number among the young, cannot accept it when things don't go the way they want or have a different opinion to others.

We see it in sport, questioning decisions, referees attacked. Migrants blamed for 'taking our jobs' (often ones that nobody else wants). The older generation blamed for taking us out if the EU, bought up all the houses, have good pensions. Politicians slagged off constantly and even, in one tragic case, murdered.

There's a new attitude around in this country that is changing from respecting other people's right to hold a different view, from discontent to hatred and it's becoming more prevalent.

The problem is that after so many years of Tory cuts and the poor suffering, they are then asked a question which can be taken as "Do you like things as they are? or Do you want things to change?" Of course most of them want change. The fact that they have voted for something that will make the country poorer and hence their lives more difficult doesn't seem to matter.