Corbyn and No Confidence

I would have had more respect for Corbyn if he'd said: this is what I believe but I respect that you might vote differently.
So much respect for Wales. They didn't want to 'take the Kings shilling' any more.

Not that again.

Nobody asked 30 million people who voted in the referendum which political party they supported. It is only the pollsters who come up with figure after asking a piddly number of the voters.

You even said on one post you could 'tell them' all about yourself to join in the assessment, or did I misinterpret your post?

There could for example be a person who voted for the National Health Party in the General Election but now say they voted Labour to distort the poll finding.

Petra, Wales has been shaken not stirred this year , did they not see how bad things were in Wales when seven UKIP members were voted into the Senydd in Msy,byes on the second ballot but we still stuck with them. Wales has been taken for granted by labour and ignored by the Tories for years

I said he listened to people, not the people.
He realised that if we came out that jobs, environment and poverty would be worse. That's why he wouldn't go on the television with Cameron, because they were talking about different things.
What's Wales and the North East got to do with it? Nobody went everywhere.
63% of Labour members voted remain, so he must have done something right. Obviously he didn't convince you, petra.

Annibach So what happened when he listened to them? He ignored them didn't he?
Showed contempt really. How must those people be feeling now. I bet they are laughing their heads off, and good on them.

Yes Wales and the North East have always been strong labour

Is any one else confused by durhamjens statement that Corbyn changed his mind because he listened to the people?
I thought that Wales and the north east were labour heart lands. They voted to leave, didn't they?
Perhaps he did listen and thought: sod you lot, you dont understand nothing like wot I do.

Thats it, someone has started talking of blairites again. I am off to bed.

Good night.

I think it will be the very opposite , the report will distract from the Labour Party problems . Just think if Blair is criticised , the press will be more interested in Corbyn than attacking Blair ?

Blimey do you honestly think the Labour Party would willingly implode to distract fron Chilcot?

Mind you Damien McBride did come back into the fold with Thornberry and Alistair Campbell and Mandleson have done the rounds.

Ooer missus.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/19/labour-hire-gordon-browns-disgraced-former-spin-doctor-as-an-adviser

What would be the choice, varian?
You can't just say some other labour leader.
It won't be Angela Eagle because she went completely against her clp.
Actually, unless it was a Blairite, the same thing would happen again. This is a distraction from the publication of the Chilcott report next week.

Didn't know I had a vote.

Djen - if you have to chose is - Corbyn plus a Tory government or some other labour leader who might win an election are you sticking with Corbyn?

It must be so difficult st times to choose where one loyalties are strongest.

I suppose the Tories must have supported apartheid in S A , remembering Thatchers support of it, st least Cameron apologise - eventually

Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.

No wonder I didn't see it, not my usual reading!

www.union-news.co.uk/hands-off-jeremy-unions-defend-corbyn-against-labour-coup-attempt/

www.union-news.co.uk/breaking-joint-unions-statement-on-corbyn/

www.union-news.co.uk/breaking-cwu-on-corbyn/

www.union-news.co.uk/breaking-pcs-executive-backs-corbyn/

"Ms Eagle may have the support of 51 MPs or MEPs needed to mount a challenge, but will she have the support of any members, considering the way she treated her own Constituency Labour Party earlier this week?

The secretary of her CLP wrote to her with instructions from the membership of the Wallasey Labour Party – not to oppose Corbyn, not to quit the Shadow Cabinet, and not to vote against him in the motion of ‘no confidence’.

We know for a fact that she ignored the first two instructions and from her current actions we can assume she scorned the third as well.

If that happened in my own constituency, the representative responsible would very quickly find themselves representing nothing at all, and I’m sure Wallasey won’t let this pass."

Sigh! No annieb I didn't at all, it was in Djens quote from the unions about holding a Labour leadership election.

I asked about the unions.

I haven't seen this reported , is that official Durhamjen?

In that case I think Labour will be in a nasty little war between the two factions. My guess is Labour MP's will get to know how the poor sods feel when the unions and activists target others. Well some have had experience of that already .

Not good.

Rosesarered considers speaking of 13.5 million living in poverty is an unnecessary distraction .

Yes durhamjen, I should have added that the Labour party also opposed the tory plans. It was an oversight rather than a slur, sorry!

Cameron still seemed to think it was okay for 13.5 million people living in poverty. That's nearly one fifth of the population.

'Unnecessary distraction'!