Corbyn and No Confidence

I have noticed that too in reply to the previous post by anniebach
It is a pity that, when trying to explain something such as why a person may not be a convinced leftwinger or an extreme rightwinger, I have had words twisted and meanings contorted.

But yes, I have noticed that too thatbags

Best to

Jalima, how childish from an intelligent woman, many not most , remember? Patronising and mocking posters is not something you do, perhaps it's the company of two this evening

I have noticed that too.

"Brought in reinforcements" ???

Best laugh I've had all day. Gransnet is so funny sometimes.

Some are more interested in trying to put down posters than discuss the topic , pity

In the last election, I considered not voting, but I always have. I am absolutely disgusted with the cuts the Conservatives have made to benefits and public services and the chaos created in our schools, so decided to vote for Labour
I have done that in the past daphnedill, although the 1997 vote was apparently not for Labour even though I thought it was at the time (although the ones much earlier in my life probably were. The Iraq war made me think again.

But, I am only out for myself apparently.

@Brought in reinforcements?' You mean no one else is allowed to post questioning misleading posts?

Ah, you've cancelled your membership...perhaps you should have said you 'were' a fully paid up member etc.

No apologies for nitpicking.

Good grief. I've just scrolled back and see you've brought in reinforcements! Absolutely pathetic!

I'm not at all sure why I have to suffer some kind of interrogation, POGS, but if it keeps you happy, I'll answer. Do you keep a record of people's posts?

I'm a lifelong LibDem supporter/voter (previously Liberal) and have continued to support them at local level, sometimes actively. I have never lived in a constituency where my vote actually counted, even if I had voted for one of the two major parties. In my current constituency 51% voted Conservative with a massive majority.

In the last election, I considered not voting, but I always have. I am absolutely disgusted with the cuts the Conservatives have made to benefits and public services and the chaos created in our schools, so decided to vote for Labour, just so they had another vote on the national total.

I thought at the time that if I wanted something done to get rid of the Conservatives, I ought to do something more active. The LibDems seemed a lost cause, so on a whim I decided to sign up for the £3 Labour membership. I hadn't really decided who I wanted to vote for, read up all I could, but in the end I didn't vote. I've since cancelled the membership.

I want to see a strong Labour Party, because I think it's the only current alternative to the Conservatives. Even then, it will probably need to form an alliance. With the loss of the Scottish seats and boundary changes, it's unlikely to win an overall majority.

Anything else you'd like to know? My BMI? Inside leg measurement? Star sign? Just ask!

You've certainly shown it very recently with your abandonment of support for Corbyn!

I never took Corbyn as someone who does as he's told.

(that is not a criticism btw)

Jalima, I am not on this forum to gather labour members , I respect each persons choice to vote as they wish. I have some nous even if you don't think so.

Breaking news. Tom Watson has told Corbyn to go. Some movement then,

I think they have taken it down beammeup

Mine has not stated his preference - he says there are five good candidates
Very canny

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-petition-calls-on-labour-to-free-the-islington-one-after-claims-about-how-his-staff.

Shall we sign it?

So why are you a fully paid up member of the Labour Party, even though in the end you didn't use your vote as you 'felt it would have been a fraud to vote'?

Sounds very odd to me!

Daphnedil

But you say you are a paid up Labour Member.

And?

Yes I would, but that doesn't mean I support Labour. There are other political parties in this country.

Yes, I have. I wrote that I'm not a Conservative voter but I am a constituent and, as this is about my PM, I thought he might be interested in my preference.

There may be a question mark after the last sentence, but it is rhetorical.

Jalima, I did not say selfish - no, not that word, but what's in it for me certainly implies that.

Jalima, not all eho stay with the same party lack common sense or intelligence
I didn't say that.
Jalima, I did not say selfish, but as I stick with one party therefore lack intelligence why ask me questions
Nor that, and I don't think I asked a question, I think I stated my opinion.

And it is ironic, really, that some posters on here would presumably like people to join the Labour Party or at least think about their aims, yet they spend so much time antagonising other posters who might be prepared to listen if it was put in a reasonable way.

An attitude of 'If you are not with me you must be against me' will not bring people over to anyone's side.

How to win votes and influence people?

Daphnedil

On Sunday you said you would rather vote for The Monster Raving Loony Party than a right wing conservative Party.

Have you told your Conservative MP whom he should choose as Conservative Party Leader?

Daphnedil. 19.38

I don't know what you are to be honest but I remind you of your post on Saturday.

"I'm not a natural Labour voter either, but I really don't want a Conservative government for longer than necessary, so I want to see an effective opposition. I'm actually a paid up Labour member, although I didn't use my vote in the end, because I felt I would have been a fraud to vote."

Now you are saying you are not a Labour supporter, I think you have said you are a Lib Dem supporter somewhere.

If you are not a Labour supporter why do you declare to being a Labour Member? Are you one of the many who joined Labour under the £3 membership policy? Did you join just to cast a vote in the Labour Leadership contest maybe.

Jalima, I did not say selfish, but as I stick with one party therefore lack intelligence why ask me questions