Being blamed

Luckygirl, Farage had already said another referendum would have to be taken if the vote was so close, t'other way round as he expected. But never mind him.

The fact is that people were lied to- very clearly, about the free movement of workers, about the 350mio going to the NHS, about EU rules and regs imposed on us- and so much more. And therefore that 1000s are now saying 'we regret our vote, we didn't understand the implications and believed the lies'.

I do NOT know a single person who voted remain who feels they would vote otherwise had they not been lied to. Do you?

Hence the massive difference.

The vile things being posted on Friday have made me sick. My DD's friends have said some dreadful things, ageism is bigotry too.

As my son was saying last night. This is a democracy the vote was totally split down the middle so the government must take this into account in its negotiations. A semi-detached UK therefore makes sense to me.

daphnedill - what would have been your response if the vote had gone the other way by a similarly small margin?

The small margin is a concern to me and would have been whichever way the vote went.

Just spoken . Was at a quiz night in Portugal last night, they were amazed such an important decision could be made on such a small majority.

Say 'please' Anya! I'm sure you were brought up properly.

How patronising to say 'get over it', rather like speaking to a child who didn't win a pass the parcel prize, or telling a person who is depressed to pull themselves together. I am devastated, no less upset than I was as I watched the results programme overnight.

DH has just suggested we revive Logan's Run, so we can all report to the Sleepshop and stop being such an aggravation to the young folk. Perhaps we could rebrand it as Johnson's Run?

The average age at Glastonbury was (I am told) 43.
And no we will not get over it. This will have a cataclysmic effect on our economy. And on other things - there was a cancer researcher on twitter mourning the fact that she will lose her funding. UK Science will undoubtedly suffer.

"Note that only 35 per cent of the 18 to 24-year-olds now being soppily mourned as “disinherited” even voted. Of under-35s it was still only 58 per cent. If youth was betrayed, as the indignant claim, they helped to do it. Straw polling at Glastonbury revealed that affording £232 a head doesn’t necessarily mean bothering to book a postal vote"

Libby Purvis Times and Sunday Time.

Quote your source DD re Glastonbury.

Then two oldest members of our immediate family (94 and 89) voted remain. Our 3 DC's-2 voted remain and 1 voted leave.Myself and my husband voted leave.And for the record I do not regret my vote,and wouldn't change it.As a family we have discussed and challenged each others views over the weeks and agreed to disagree ,but unanimously felt whatever the outcome we should all knuckle down and make the best of it.As a family.As a democratic country.Call me a crazy optimist I like to think that's something most of us in Britain are good at.Now I'm not so sure. There is so much negativity.
I understand people are worried. Did I think leaving the EU would be a walk in the park,a picnic?Of course not.All periods of change are challenging,scary even.But equally did I think staying in the EU was the answer to all our problems.On balance no.
And please don't tell me I've ruined everything for the younger generation.I've discussed this at length with our three and their friends ,and whilst the majority vowed remain some voted leave.But all agree not enough young people mobilised themselves to vote.And they appreciate if anyone's put their security on the line it's myself and my husband.Self employed with a very modest pension and the goalposts on state pension pushed back who are just as much at risk of financial fallout in the inevitable short term turbulence as they are.We've tried our best to bring our children up with a can do attitude ,and to open and inclusive to new ideas and respect different opppinions. We're not perfect.None of us are.But please don't tell me I don't care about the next generation.My first grandchild is due anytime soon a day nothing could be further from the truth.

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The people have spoken....get over it

taight = taught

Just read that people at Glastonbury were polled. 73% had voted by post and 83% voted Remain.

My children (18 and 23) voted.

@ Jalima

Was this one of the people interviewed?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7wNTkL-dY

It has to be a fake, but I have really taight people like that.

That's really depressing to hear. I think some people just choose to ignore a lot of what is happening around them. I can see the appeal, but I'm too curious.

I saw a young woman interviewed a couple or so weeks before the referendum and she had no clue that there was to be a referendum - and wasn't at all sure what the EU was. Presumably she had a vote to stay in or come out of something she hadn't really heard of.
[despair]

I saw a couple of young people who didn't vote being interviewed and the basic reason was they didn't understand enough to vote. Even after discussing it amongst their friends, everyone decided not to vote. Now that's the kind of thing that worries me.

In the run up to the Scottish referendum, independence was discussed in schools to make sure the 16-18 year olds had an understanding of what their vote was about. Politics has been taught as part of the National Curriculum as part of the Citizenship subject since 2002, yet in the last 4 general elections in average on 40% of young voters voted. In the 1990s it was around 60%, so why aren't more not less voting these days?

My son is just back from Croatia and he said he was sat in a bar next ro a group of at least 25 young English. They were all blaming the older voter, saying most of them will be dead before we've even finished the negotiations.
Some young people have really got to learn that if they don't bother to get out and vote they will not get the result they want.

That doesn't give us very long whitewave
I don't want to live for ever, either, but did they give any indication how long we've got because I have a lot of things I would like to do first

So glad my DC are nicer than that

Yes, next week is going to be very interesting.
Whitewave, did they give any idea how long they expect us to live? My grandson wants me to live for ever, even if I do not want to.
These negotiations could last a very long time.

Not at all Badenkate. Even I can see it's better than the jinglbellsfrocks I have somehow ended up with.

I've got to that stage too, jingl (if you don't mind me referring to you in that familiar way?). I am now preparing to sit back and be thoroughly entertained

I imagine it could be fun making up myths. At any other time we could have had a thread on it (Phoenix would have invented some good ones), but this is definitely not the right moment for it.