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Brexit watch, round 2

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petra Thu 21-Jul-16 20:35:01

Jalima Some people are having difficulty understanding that the remain camp lost the vote. They failed. They lost. They came second.

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:50:54

Grrr! Gibraltar...think it might be time for bed.

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:50:22

Gibrlatar won't be in the EU after BREXIT.

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:49:57

Most people on mainland Europe speak two or three languages. If you ever watch the European parliament, you'll see that speakers of minority languages often speak in English.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 22:49:35

Also Gibraltar and Ireland

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:48:01

SNAP! (Didn't see your post, Jalima.)

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:47:12

The official languages of Malta are Maltese AND English.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 22:45:17

Malta has two official languages, Maltese and English, which makes it very easy for those of us who go there sometimes and don't speak much Maltese (not for lack of trying).

durhamjen Thu 28-Jul-16 22:40:12

So what is Malta's official language?
Maltese.
I can't imagine asking any country to change its official language. Although very few people can understand Danish, so I suppose they use German or English anyway.

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:36:11

The EU has produced a booklet of misused English word in documents. Some of them are quite funny.

ec.europa.eu/translation/english/guidelines/documents/misused_english_terminology_eu_publications_en.pdf

daphnedill Thu 28-Jul-16 22:29:55

I was wondering about the English language in the EU and did a bit of research. English is used as the 'de facto' common language, because most countries have English speakers and business is often done in English, even if neither country has English as an official language. Apparently one possibility would be for either Malta or Ireland to change it's official EU language to English, so that English can remain one of the EU languages. I don't know if that's likely to happen. There are more German speakers in Europe than French speakers.

durhamjen Thu 28-Jul-16 22:28:09

'Why is Lloyds cutting back?

Lloyds Banking Group plans to cut 3,000 jobs and shut 200 branches as the lender braces itself for a cut in interest rates following the UK's decision to quit the European Union.

The partly state-backed bank said its cost-cutting programme - which was first announced back in 2014 - is to be extended, with the new cuts coming into effect by the end of 2017.

Lloyds is preparing for a 'lower for longer interest rate environment', with the Bank of England widely expected to cut interest rates from 0.5 per cent to 0.25 per cent next week as the fallout from the Brexit vote intensifies.'

Daily Mail.

durhamjen Thu 28-Jul-16 22:13:14

they were not the jobs earmarked to go in 2014.
These are new ones to go.
BLOODY HELL, YOU ARE GETTING RIDICULOUS NOW.

Washerwoman Thu 28-Jul-16 21:22:30

No one is attacking you DJ ,however your initial post said Barclays (then lloyds) cutting jobs and branches because of Brexit vote.Plain and simple.And several of us pointed out that those jobs were earmarked to go in 2014 (9000) and then a further 3000 and bbc news website says Lloyd's admits these were planned before ref result announced.And we all agreed closure of local branches was regretable and had been ongoing for the past few years.On the six o'clock news the primary reason was changing banking habits.Some uncertainty post referendum yes,but by no means the only reason.
Sorry to hear that your nephew lost his job.MyDDs partner has just lost his,not banking and for reasons totally unrelated to the ref result.But just been invited for 2 interviews today so fingers crossed.

granjura Thu 28-Jul-16 21:03:12

Just had to do that btw- refer to latin. An article in the local paper told us that our Church roof is full of 'oreillards bruns' bats- but couldn't find an English translation. However the latin name gave us a direct link- without any possible mistakes.

Granny2016 Thu 28-Jul-16 20:42:42

Juncker is known to like a tipple and has greeted world leaders in very peculiar fashion at times.Unless of course,there are leaders on other planets !

granjura Thu 28-Jul-16 20:33:28

Mamie, for all sorts of things that have local names, like fish, plants, flowers, wildlife, etc, etc, - reference in latin is the best for international communication.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 20:31:19

During a speech on the 28th of June in the European in Parliament in Brussels, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker confused attendees in Parliament when he started talking about what appear to be extraterrestrials. Juncker claimed he met and listened to “leaders of other planets” who are “watching us from afar”. He says they worried as they keep asking about the path the European Union will pursue following the BREXIT vote of the British people.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 20:26:27

I think many people blame Juncker as much for Brexit as the uneducated, ignorant, racist British Brexiters.

That is tongue in cheek btw petra
I may have voted remain and I was surprised but I am not bitter.

petra Thu 28-Jul-16 20:19:06

"Jean Claude Junker has allowed negotiators to pursue a deal on curbing an influx of migrants to Switzerland"
"It will come as a boost to brexit negotiators who want to control movement while also staying in the European unions single market"
I wouldn't trust him, I think he will allow the Swiss to curb migration, but not us.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 20:08:13

Time to bring back Esperanto?

Mamie Thu 28-Jul-16 19:54:09

There is no "main" language. I think the founding languages included French, German and Dutch. There was some suggestion that English might be dropped as an official language after Brexit but I think that is unlikely. The Scandinavians obviously use it a lot and the Irish. There is simultaneous translation going on all the time though.
My friend said the hardest bit was the fish names because nobody used the official names, but had their own local ones.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 19:52:34

although, of course, Spanish is 2nd most widely spoken around the world if they want to trade with the world.

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 19:50:57

hmm not sure, I wonder if German will be the language most used?

Jalima Thu 28-Jul-16 19:49:20

The EU has a huge resource of highly-skilled translators
I know, DN used to be one!

durhamjen Thu 28-Jul-16 19:46:19

Jalima, apparently French is a better language for the law. Or so lawyers say!
I wonder what will happen when we leave. Do you think French will become the main language?

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