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Looks like it could soon be 'RIP the NHS'?

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AlieOxon Fri 26-Aug-16 12:27:43

Big cuts in prospect in the news and no consultation until the autumn....

durhamjen Tue 06-Dec-16 18:44:39

The people are fighting back - at least the councils are in the form of Health and Wellbeing Boards.

skwawkbox.org/2016/12/06/healthwellbeing-boards-councils-unanimously-reject-nhs-sustainability-plan/

I wonder what Jeremy Hunt will do now.

durhamjen Fri 02-Dec-16 23:25:44

Why do we have a CQC? What good are they doing if they can behave like this?

www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/minh-alexander-anonymous-pam-linton-clare-sardari/why-is-cqc-ignoring-or-even-suppressing-pri

durhamjen Fri 02-Dec-16 22:34:23

www.stopthestps.org.uk/stp-effects/4593180601

The public are not the only ones not to know what the STPs are about. GPs, practice managers and half the BMA have no idea.

'Recently (Nov.1st) BMA London Region said that half of the members had never even heard of STPs.

A twitter survey of GPs and Practice managers found that 84% didn’t know what is in their area’s STP about General Practice/Primary care. No one else knows either - if we are to believe replies from Council Leaders to members of the public who have asked them to publish the STP for their area.

Of course, NHS England and almost all the NHS & Local Authority organisations involved in the STPs are spinning them as being about improvement to the quality of NHS and social care services and reduction of health inequalities through preventive care. '

durhamjen Thu 01-Dec-16 17:40:37

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/11/30/a-note-to-jeremy-hunt-on-misjudgement/

The comments on this are extremely disturbing.
Anyone who doesn't think the NHS is being privatised should read this.

daphnedill Thu 01-Dec-16 13:23:41

Were the people in A and E tourists? It doesn't seem likely that people would pay for a flight to get a pill and plaster for free.

daphnedill Thu 01-Dec-16 13:21:59

They come to the UK to find work!! Most of them are young and fit.

CelticRose Thu 01-Dec-16 09:24:01

On another subject of healthcare. In conversation recently, I said that the older generation in Germany were better looked after with healthcare/free travel passes/tv licences/fuel allowance, etc. The answer that came back was that they had to pay into private schemes as well as state schemes whilst they were working. Not sure about healthcare finance in Mattress-money countries such as France/Italy/Greece/Spain. NHS. Another reason so many immigrants want to come here.

CelticRose Thu 01-Dec-16 09:13:49

I once worked as a volunteer clerk in the A&E Department of a city hospital about 10 years ago. Being a hard-working volunteer meant I could voice strong opinion when I saw peoples of other nations who did not even speak English walk into A&E and receive treatment for the most minor of ailments from dedicated staff and doctors, and receive pills, plasters, bandages, antiseptics, etc, to take home. I said at the time that passports should be shown, along with another form of ID, and that the country of origin should be invoiced for all costs - as happens in Germany and France.

MaizieD Wed 23-Nov-16 22:49:31

This looks to be another nail in the coffin:

Jeremy Hunt is selling off another vital part of the NHS, even though it’s MAKING money

NHS Professionals (NHSP) is the largest provider of temporary medical staff to the NHS. It manages staffing banks for a number of NHS trusts, and has over 90,000 medical professionals registered with its service. It is a limited company wholly owned by the Department of Health. And it provides trusts with staff at reasonable rates, much lower than those of private staffing agencies.

On average, it saves the NHS £70 million a year.

Regardless of which company snaps up NHSP, it is a great loss for the health service. NHSP saves the NHS vast amounts of money through its low-cost staffing. It is also a profitable outfit that then ploughs that money back into public health provision. Its sell off will mean that these profits stuff the pockets of shareholders and executives instead. And it could see the costs to the NHS increase if its new owners raise the rates to ensure that their pockets overflow.

www.thecanary.co/2016/11/21/jeremy-hunt-selling-off-another-vital-part-nhs-even-though-making-money/

daphnedill Wed 23-Nov-16 10:37:00

@thatbags (and others)

The birth rate for babies born to mothers born outside the UK has already begun to fall:

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/parentscountryofbirthenglandandwales/2015#overall-rise-in-births-driven-by-women-born-outside-the-uk

Lazigirl Wed 23-Nov-16 10:15:24

There are hundreds of events across the country this Saturday 26th Nov in support of NHS and asking government for more funding. Organised by the Labour Party. Let's fight to prevent it becoming "RIP the NHS".

durhamjen Sat 12-Nov-16 14:48:45

I couldn't believe this when I read it. How on earth could anyone think of doing this? Don't they realise they could kill people by doing this?

dwpexamination.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/vile-hackers-cripple-nhs-medical-machines-and-demand-ransom-to-get-them-back-running-express/

durhamjen Thu 10-Nov-16 17:00:18

Anyone live in Bath/North Somerset?

www.communitycare.co.uk/2016/11/09/virgin-care-set-run-social-work-service-unprecedented-deal/

durhamjen Thu 03-Nov-16 21:12:30

Privatisation of the NHS. Private companies are seeing profits more than double because of the problems of NHS finance.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/political/from-red-to-black-private-sector-profiting-as-nhs-crumbles/20033114.article

durhamjen Wed 02-Nov-16 18:56:25

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jQPa9uTOSI

A film about the NHS by 38 degrees.

durhamjen Tue 01-Nov-16 21:54:43

There's some interesting stuff on here, particularly the maps showing the deficits in each area.

skwawkbox.org/2016/11/01/tory-smarm-offensive-cant-hide-real-cause-of-nhs-crisis/

durhamjen Mon 31-Oct-16 18:00:41

Interesting stuff here, going back to 2010.

skwawkbox.org/2016/10/31/proof-govts-nhs-desperate-measures-planned-since-at-least-2010/

whitewave Mon 31-Oct-16 15:14:53

The Tories have been lying about the NHS since day 1 of Cameron and Osborne.

May has simply carried on, but her duplicitous behaviour is extending to all sorts of areas.

durhamjen Mon 31-Oct-16 13:35:00

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37801100

durhamjen Mon 31-Oct-16 13:34:10

Even Tory MPs know that May and Hunt are lying about the amount of money they say they give to the NHS.

labourlist.org/2016/10/labour-mps-round-on-misleading-may-over-social-care-crisis/

durhamjen Fri 28-Oct-16 20:07:20

The NHA has its first councillor. He was an independent and has now changed to the NHA. He's well known locally, so it will not upset those who voted for him, as he has always campaigned about the NHS.

This is not about him. It's about something very serious.

nhap.org/the-friday-surgery-22/

durhamjen Fri 28-Oct-16 15:56:31

you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-the-plans-to-dismantle-our-nhs

There's a video on here about Jeremy Hunt saying that we will move forward to a plan like Kaiser Permanente.
Worth watching.

durhamjen Fri 28-Oct-16 11:46:08

This is an interesting and depressing view of the Tory marketisation of the NHS.

labourlist.org/2016/10/spellar-the-tory-right-are-not-hostile-to-the-nhs-because-it-fails-but-because-it-works/

durhamjen Wed 26-Oct-16 14:58:54

How about looking at this instead, the revolving door of government ministers after they are promoted to the Lords.

politicalscrapbook.net/2016/10/nhs-price-fix-inquiry-after-andrew-lansley-took-job-advising-big-pharma-on-pricing/

JessM Wed 26-Oct-16 13:16:38

Part of a long and concerted campaign by the Daily Mail to convince people that schools and hospitals are under pressure because of immigration, not because the Tories are incompetent - or possibly malicious in intent. All evidence would indicate that Hunt is probably the latter.
The slow dripping of poison is how fascist propaganda works. The Mail was at it in the 1930s re Jews and they are still at it now.
Please don't start protesting that I am getting at Daily Mail readers because I am not.