This could and probably will go on for years
Just to note that as well as Japan putting down markers, Australia has advised that we will behind the EU in any trade negotiations.
So do you think the rise is the kind of incident Tegan has mentioned is a coincidence, roses? Do we suffer from some kind of compassion fatigue after the first one or two?
You seem determined to keep this going Tegan and love using little sad emojis.FFS attacks happen constantly, both randomly and racially motivated.My DH was once attacked in Scotland ( for having an English accent) we don't hold it against all the Scots or blame it on their referendum.
It would not be unusual to hear the expression "F off back to Scotland" in some of our ' less than salubrious' pubs in southend when emotions and drink are running high.
Nothing rascist meant by it, just an expression.
A student has been stabbed in the neck with a smashed drinks bottle “because he was speaking Polish” on a night out with friends. Police are treating the attack on Bartosz Milewski as a racially aggravated hate crime after the 21-year-old was left needing several stitches.
The student had been visiting friends in Donnington, near Telford, on Thursday night after returning from working at a summer camp in the US. The group were in a park in St Matthews Road when a group of men approached at about 1am, West Mercia Police said.
Phew; good job that this has always been happening....otherwise I'd be quite worried....
No worries DD I don't expect an answer even if I ask a genuine and polite question.I long ago worked out you have scant regard for any of my posts !
OK so 'all the ills' was perhaps a bit of an exaggeration!
Who's blaming Brexit for all the ills that beset the UK?
It seems to me that some people are in denial that 'resentments' have been given legitimacy.
I don't live far from Harlow and shop there every couple of months. It is not a town with reasons for resentment.
Yes, it is worrying, but it is built into people to blame someone when things get bad.
That makes the rise in racist attacks even more worrying, Elegran.
Well said, Elegran. I'm sure most people know that in their heart of hearts, but some find it very difficult to admit.
They'd rather blame Brexit for all the ills that beset the UK, and some which haven't even come about and are not likely to!
Fair comment, Elegran.
Giving people a handy excuse for attacking those of a different race is not identical to causing attacks.
One incident may trigger reprisals against a whole nation (in the early days of the American west, the rape of a white woman might start a campaign against a tribe of native Americans)- but if there had not been underlying tension and assumed competition for resources, common sense might have prevailed and the sitution seen in perspective.
What happened with the Brexit campaign was that the spotlight fell on existing discontent and it then appeared legitimate. In the third Reich, the existing discontent against apparent Jewish business success in the failing economic situation was picked up on and appeared to be a legitimate grievance. These resentments were not new, they were there ready to surface with any additional stress.
That is not to excuse them, but to put them in context.
I don't take much notice of your posts, washerwoman, so I don't remember the question. Maybe I missed it.
I'm at a loss why you seem so defensive, when you admit racial tensions have increased. Unfortunately, a little group of 15 and 16 year olds in Essex aren't that lovely. They murdered someone in a racially motivated attack.
"The Royal Yacht Britannia should be recommissioned and used to secure trade deals after the Brexit vote, dozens of MPs, former ministers and a senior former aide to the Queen say.
The politicians back a campaign by the Telegraph and call for the return of the “incredible” vessel, which was put out of service in 1997 by Tony Blair’s government.
Boris Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, is understood to be considering a detailed proposal to return the yacht to the seas.
Sources said he sees it as "a great symbol of global Britain".
MPs in favour of the plans believe it would boost links with the Commonwealth.
Between 1991 and 1995, it is estimated that the yacht helped secure £3billion of trade deals as world leaders and business figures clamored to attend receptions hosted on the vessel.
Three former trade ministers have backed the move, while around 20 backbenchers are said to have given their initial support.
Richard Needham, who was minister of trade from 1992 and 1995 and led four overseas trade missions on the yacht, said: “Britannia was an incredible benefit in terms of trade promotion.
“It was wonderful, absolutely wonderful. I remember having her in Cape Town, the floodlighting of Table Top mountain behind her, the band of the royal marines.”
Lord Heseltine, who as President of the Board of Trade from 1992 to 1995 fought hard against the decision to axe Britannia, said: “We made a great mistake in not replacing Britannia in the 1990s. That remains my view.
“She was a symbol of many things about this country we have now not got. It was the wrong decision but I full understood the pressures on the Government of which I was a member. In the internal debate I wanted to replace it.”
Calls for the recommissioning follow the vote to leave the EU, with Britain soon having to secure its own trade deals and forge a new relationship with the rest of the world.
Jake Berry, the Tory MP for Rossendale and Darwen, is behind the plan and has secured a debate in Parliament next month to gain support.
Two options are being considered – recommissioning the original yacht, which is currently berthed in Edinburgh as a tourist attraction, or ordering a replica.
Given concerns over the costs of the venture to the taxpayer, Mr Berry is looking into a campaign to raise funds that would not include asking for public money.
Donors from across the Commonwealth would be approached, with a Canadian figure was said to have offered £10m to fund a previous drive for recommissioning.
Dickie Arbiter, a press secretary for the Queen for 12 years, told the Telegraph that recommissioning the Britannia was a “good idea” that should be investigated.
He said: “All the Royals were fond of it, it was a kind of home for home. It was used from 1954 - that’s a long time. It wasn’t a play thing for the Royals, far from it. It was an operational vehicle.”
Lord Jones of Birmingham, a trade minister in Gordon Brown's Government and former director general of the CBI, told the Telegraph: "When I was Trade Minister I was amazed how many overseas contacts asked me why we ever got rid of Britannia.
"It was such a useful weapon in the armoury when fighting for export orders and inward investment."
Hurrah; Britannia to the rescue. We're not doomed after all...[hope all the brexiters are going to give money to the appeal!]
I think that even without the vote going to leave the Union there would have been a lot less EU migration as the word on the street in Europe is now that the UK I does not like immigrants from the EU or anywhere else for that matter. Not sure how Priti Patel is going to keep her word the Indian subcontinent about them having free access - I guess that is where the Indian Prime minister got the idea to put it as a condition of trade deals with the UK -free visas for all I saw reported.
'Sorry DJ but I think you do know what single minded avenue of thought POGS means and I for one am glad she has called you on it.'
I am pleased that's not an attack on me.
Are you saying that I said that?
'The piece was written by Liz Gerard, the former Times and Sunday Times subeditor, who has carried out extensive research into the way in which the Express and Daily Mail, with occasional assistance from other titles, have created a climate of fear about immigrants.
In a series of articles on her sub-scribe blog she has chronicled the relentless catalogue of negative stories about migrants, many of which have been suspiciously short on facts.
The underlying message of her piece is that the referendum result was unduly influenced by the misinformation and disinformation about immigration published in several rightwing titles. '
A few more sentences from the article, Ana.
Are you saying that all those Express front pages of misinformation had no effect on the people who read them?
But maybe not including the blatant lies that The Sun printed in the run up to the referendum perhaps?
The New European, the weekly newspaper dedicated to reversing the EU referendum result.
Not biased in its content at all, then?
Good god DJ where did I attack you?! I expressed frustration.Please don't be so oversensitive.
It makes me sad that a month ago DD made a very sweeping statement 'some places are negative to all things foreign' at the end of the last brexit thread.And when I politely and genuinely asked twice if she could identify those areas I got blanked.I'm still patiently awaiting an answer. Would that be Essex then DD?No offence to the lovely people of Essex.I'm sure there plenty of anecdotal evidence of acts of kindness and tolerance in that county but they won't get highlighted on here.Likewise Tegan your distaste at the posters in North Yorkshire don't typify the Yorkshire folk I'm surrounded by here.The odd idiot but generally welcoming and hospitable and in West Yorkshire a much longer track record of livingand working alongside immigrants from all overy the world than most areas of the UK.
Yes DD I will agree as a result of the REFERENDUM some increased racial tensions have bubbled over in some areas.But believe it or not as a Leave voter the last thing I want is anyone already living and working here to leave.Our DDs girlfriend is from Southern Italy ,soon to go back and try her luck finding a job there.Rarer than hens teeth at the moment,and her friends are scattered around the world as there are no prospects for them at home.As a graduate with a Masters she may return,with or without a work permit.Who knows.
One thing I'm absolutely certain of is if we had voted Remain and immigration continued unchecked from 27 other EU states I'm sure we would equally have seen a rise in racist attacks .And I am NOT excusing any racially motivated attack by saying that.Like it or not I voted Leave because I care about immigrants and the deal they get when they are here and how they are integrated into the community they settle.That's why we need a shake up and sensible ,controlled immigration criteria.And please don't tell me we would have got that by staying within the EU and working to change things.Maybe,maybe not.
The reason I put that link on, washerwoman, was because felice mentioned she had seen it in European papers and was surprised that it was not in the British papers.
I found it for her. Okay?
Nobody has blamed every attack on Brexit, but you cannot say attacks have not increased since Brexit, can you?
I agree with Tegan. Why attack me when it should be the racist attacks you are concerned about.
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