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Channel 4 Dispatches - Momentum Party

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Anniebach Mon 19-Sept-16 23:30:25

I was advised to beware of certain defences put forward by Corbyn supporters who denied they have contact with .momentum, this is the harm they have done - apart from the damaged to the party - they are such plotters and schemers they have spread mistrust . I don't know if you are a member or not Jen , I fear you are

durhamjen Mon 19-Sept-16 23:28:52

By the way, both the Panorama and Dispatches programmes were made by the same production company, with the same director.

durhamjen Mon 19-Sept-16 23:21:52

Just lots of innuendo.

Last year I had an email from Jeremy for leader.
I replied to it, then got one from Momentum.
I did not reply to that, and I had one from Momentum North East or Newcastle or whatever.
I unsubscribed from that and have had no more from Momentum.
It's easy not to get stuff from Momentum if you don't want it. They do not harass people. It would be a waste of their resources.
So not every supporter of Corbyn is a member of Momentum, or a trot. In fact, it seemed to give the impression that very few of them were Trotskyites. Only three of them appeared to be EWL. or whatever it is, and that was in one of the biggest groups in the country.

I would like to see a similar programme about Progress. I doubt if there will be one.
In fact, I think it's all the Progress group who want rid of Corbyn.

Anniebach Mon 19-Sept-16 22:52:53

Sorry no

dramatictessa Mon 19-Sept-16 22:51:40

That doesn't help me at all, annie. Could you at least give me a link to some information? I hear so many accusations about threats and deselection but no hard facts. Happy for you to pm me if you don't want to post on the forum.

Anniebach Mon 19-Sept-16 22:46:08

I don't think anything could be put forward as balance , we heard the recordings said by some Momentum workers, we heard the reporters questions in her pay

Anniebach Mon 19-Sept-16 22:43:09

I have learned not to be so trusting on this forum Jen , there are a number here I would tell , you are not one sorry.

durhamjen Mon 19-Sept-16 22:40:55

Well tell us, Annie.

Are you also going to watch the Ken Loach film, POGs, for balance?

Anniebach Mon 19-Sept-16 22:36:58

I have been told what some contain,

dramatictessa Mon 19-Sept-16 22:30:30

What threats are the MPs receiving, and who is making them? How do you know this? Genuine questions, I do want to know the truth.

Anniebach Mon 19-Sept-16 22:24:29

It distressed me .

I don't receive anything from Jeremy for Labour and have never received a phone call relating to Corbyn . I do receive mails the party sends out from both Owen and Corbyn .

Dispatches confirmed my suspicions of Momentum , there really should be further investigations but I doubt it. Taking on Momentum and Unite ?

Momentum members will dismiss it as propaganda, I felt sorry for the young people who really believe what Momentum and Corbyn are telling them but even more sorry for decent, loyal MP's who face deselection . I do know the threats MP's are receiving are vile and I do not believe Corbyn is unaware of them. That hit list was no error .

How can such a movement hold a political party to hostage POGS?

POGS Mon 19-Sept-16 21:58:40

Well that was interesting. I should say Panarama was also enlightening but not as forceful and uncompromisingly direct in it's reporting content as Dispatches.

I'm not going to simply post on the Lib Dem Thread which has turned into a Labour Thread as I think this programme summed up exactly what I have thought and have been posting since the formation of Momentum , it is a ' Party within a Party.'

I will say now to those who will see it as propaganda and take umbrage at my post you cannot argue with what you see and hear from the horses mouth, no matter how hard you might try and no doubt will.

The fact Momentum are doing all they can to play down the Momentum name in connection to the ' Jeremy for Labour ' Campaign , the use of the Unite Union office are significant, the way the reporter was paid is serious stuff and I hope there is further investigation into that. Will anybody take it up I wonder?.

Has anybody 'Cicked' on the ' Jeremy for Labour ' Campaign or answered questions on the phone in connection with it. The reason I ask is if you have you are, as I understood it, on the data base on the Jeremy For Labour Services?. Listen to what is said about it , you may not be too happy, or maybe you will of course.

There is to be fair a Momentum explanation and statement at the end of the programme but it is worth viewing to make your own mind up if you didn't catch it.