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Granny23 Wed 05-Oct-16 12:09:59

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/firms-must-list-foreign-workers-gw20ndp5x

Saw this report this am and my blood ran cold. Is this - lists of all foreigners - not the beginning of a very slippery slope which leads to yellow stars sewn on to clothing?

I'm wondering what constitutes a 'FOREIGNER'? Surely not my very good French born Scottish friend who has lived, worked, been married in the UK for nearly 50 years? Or the 3rd generation Asian Scots who run our local convenience store? Or the music teacher who coaches the Wee Community steel band - she's from the USA (and one of the drummers is (shock horror) German. Or the Syrian and Polish families now at school with my DGC. What about DH's Consultants? The last one was from New Zealand, the Current one is, I think, Indian. Will the Houses of Parliament have to list all the MPs and Lords who were born elsewhere.

Am I the only one to hear alarm bells ringing in my ears more loudly than usual? Have we reached a tipping point, where rampant British Nationalism is the only mantra?

Anya Mon 24-Oct-16 07:13:40

nigglynellie this is why I don't bother to post on these threads any more. You are trying to reason with some who have a fixed mindset. To enter into debate people have to be willing to 'listen' to any others point of view and then put forward a reasoned arguement which might persuade their fellow debater to move their stance.

What we have here insults such as 'you are obviously fortunate to live in a parallel universe.....' and taunts like 'you giving up again'.

This is why the political threads are avoided by those, of all political persuasions, except a hardy few. In real life you would excuse yourself and just walk away from anyone who talked like that.

nigglynellie Mon 24-Oct-16 06:47:12

I'm not the only one dj! Wonder why?!!!!!

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 22:47:57

Raging?
Yes, we are, Jess, at the mess Hunt is making of our NHS.

You giving up again, Nellie?

How many EU and other migrants work in the NHS?
Hunt is telling them they can all go home. Serve him right if they did.
Not that he would take responsibility for it because, hard to believe, the SoS no longer has responsibility for the NHS.
He just interferes in it.

JessM Sun 23-Oct-16 21:51:18

Nellie you are obviously fortunate enough to live in a parallel universe in which Jeremy Hunt does not exist, or else his benign and rational dopple-ganger is not:
Starving the NHS of money when our raging population is pushing up demand
Upsetting the hard working junior doctors and driving them into moving abroad
Discouraging people from training as nurses by withdrawing bursaries
Don't think our beloved NHS is going to be very far from chaos when he hands it over in 2020.

whitewave Sun 23-Oct-16 18:57:11

Oh god! Sorry I didn't proof read.

Ana Sun 23-Oct-16 18:54:42

Fascists now, are they? grin Oh, I give up too, nellie!

whitewave Sun 23-Oct-16 18:51:24

May failed government policy nothing to do with fascists.

nigglynellie Sun 23-Oct-16 18:47:13

Exactly Ana! To be honest I give up!!!!

whitewave Sun 23-Oct-16 18:46:50

But it was government policy to reduce immigration to 10s of thousands, nothing to do with the referendum. She failed miserably.

Ana Sun 23-Oct-16 18:44:15

Well she didn't know all those darned xenophobes and racists would win the referendum did she? Hindsight is a wonderful thing...

suzied Sun 23-Oct-16 18:40:59

She had plenty of time to sort out non eu immigration when she was Home Secretary..did nothing about it.

whitewave Sun 23-Oct-16 18:36:50

nig why do you think May has no plans to stop/reduce immigration from the rest of the world? That would take a huge chunk out of the total figure.

nigglynellie Sun 23-Oct-16 18:27:58

Let's face it, whatever the government do will be wrong for some people! Why not just put Corbyn in charge, open our doors, let everyone the world over come here en masse, then when all our systems, the NHS in particular have broken down in chaos perhaps you in particular dj will at last be content!

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 16:24:52

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/22/anger-panicking-home-office-houses-refugee-children-detention-centre-calais

This is how disorganised they have been. More concerned with Brexit than with these child refugees.
It's appalling. What did May and Rudd expect to happen?
Now even those with family here are having to go to foster care or detention centres because they couldn't get their act together.
Must be hoping the rest of them will disappear tomorrow. Then it'll be traffickers faults, not theirs.

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 13:04:53

Brilliant! The home office has rejected the criticism of being disorganised about Calais.
You couldn't make it up, could you?
What have they been doing all this time?

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 13:01:10

By the way, if anyone supports Gary Lineker on what he says about immigrants, you can vote for him on the National Television Awards.
The Sun has criticised him, but it supports the awards.

www.nationaltvawards.com/vote

Get one back on the Sun, and Tory MPs who have also criticised him.

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 12:48:10

I agree, Jess. Saying April just puts it slightly in perspective.
I was just reading an article about Lily Allen and how she has been denigrated since she visited Calais.
There was a link in the article to one about Jude Law and Benedict Cumberbatch visiting and saying equally bad things about the government, but the Sun and the Mail did not write nasty articles about them.
That was in February,before the Dubs amendment. There were over 200 child refugees who were going to be allowed in, each one supported by someone like Jude Law, etc.
They are still not here.
The Dubs amendment said as soon as possible. Is this really as soon as possible?
129 child refugees have disappeared since they were registered as suitable to come here.
What's happened to Britain?

JessM Sun 23-Oct-16 12:28:03

Some of the kids have been waiting much longer to be reunited with family in the UK. Not just since April.
Run rights of children seem to have been blithely disregarded by May, when Home Secretary and by French authorities.

Elegran Sun 23-Oct-16 12:25:17

Maybe it could be South Farthing? grin

trisher Sun 23-Oct-16 12:17:20

Thanks for the post about Yorkshire Ridings dj Them from other parts of the country know nowt about up North. At least we managed to get rid of Humberside. South Yorkshire next?

It's much easier for this gov to keep people focused on immigration whilst they destroy the NHS, schools and housing. The age of refugees is yet another distraction.

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 12:07:13

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/23/fear-stalks-final-hours-calais-camp

Why is it that the age of refugees seems to be more talked about than the fact that the government has done nothing in the six months since the Dubs amendment was agreed?
We wouldn't be panicking now if the government had been sensible from last April.

durhamjen Sun 23-Oct-16 12:02:43

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/22/refugees-calais-too-old-kindness-britain

durhamjen Sat 22-Oct-16 20:24:08

Roses, riding comes from the word thriding, which means a third.
There can't be four thirds in Yorkshire, therefore South Yorkshire is impossible.
Apologies to anyone who lives in the fourth thriding.

Jalima Sat 22-Oct-16 17:41:50

DGD1 was asking me about Somerset today; I was trying to think which parts were and are which.
I do wish they wouldn't keep changing boundaries.

rosesarered Sat 22-Oct-16 17:38:39

Petition Theresa May to create a South Riding.