Brexit and power to the people

Gina Miller has had rape and death threats.

www.ibtimes.co.uk/gina-miller-receives-rape-death-threats-online-after-high-court-ruling-article-50-1589840

Voters delegate political decision-making power to parliament as a rule. Sometimes parliament delegates political decision-making power back to voters like in the referendum we just had.

The cake and eat it attitude of some MPs is annoying.

Yes 'only an indication of the wishes of the voters' so not important

Don't forget, a referendum is only an indication of the wishes of the voters; it does not have to be acted upon, as any lawyer will tell you.
I suspect we will have years of fudge and end up back at square one.

Remember this from the official information?

"This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide. If you're aged 18 or over by 23rd of June and are entitled to vote, this is your chance to decide." ("You" is the collective 'you', of course.)

I learned that in the TV series "Victoria" - amazing what you can pick up from TV- and was horrified to realise that death for treason by hanging, drawing and quartering was still on the statute book in the (nearly) mid 19th century.
I appreciate it was early on in Victoria's reign, but how medieval and barbaric especially when you look at the considerable scientific, social and technological advances of the later Victorian era.

Today is the anniversary of the last great uprising in the UK, the Newport rebellion by the Chartists in 1839.

Newport's mayor was knighted for crushing the rebellion. The leaders were sentenced to being hung drawn and quartered, but the sentence was commuted to transportation for life by Queen Victoria.

Well that certainly figures as 'free movement' has increased the population of Gr Britain to a degree that has seen people without accommodation,schools full to the brim and the NHS? what NHS.?

It's about the "Separation of Powers" i.e. Royal Perogative versus Parliamentary Powers (I think).

Magna Carta says we can't be in the EU, let's stick with that.

Ironically that might happen ginny

Well Brexit supporters must be very pleased that our judges and our law have forced Theresa May to respect our elected Parliament.

Brexiters accuse the EU of being an unaccountable dictatorship and here is a good example of the kind of British sovereignty that Brexiters crave.

If TM decides to appeal and loses she could always take it to the European Court of Justice.

Excellent link! That's real democracy. I wonder why the government didn't start it .

You can still have your say on it if you haven't already.

38 degrees have been crowdsourcing ideas on Brexit.
So far over 8 million people have given their ideas. That's nearly 25% of the number who voted.

Results so far are here.

diybrexit.38degrees.org.uk/

Most people seem to be concerned about the effect on the NHS.

Crowdjustice is the way that ordinary people can get justice now that most legal aid has disappeared.
I think it's an excellent way for people without resources to be heard in court.

... keen on him ?

Am I what?

are you rose? ;)

the 'public' is given the choice to pay - it is entirely a choice - I'll personally be very happy to pay my bit.

If you read the transcript of the various arguments you will understand very quickly that politics has absolutely nothing to do with the argument, but it has everything to do with constitutional law.

Politics is transistory and fleeting but the law will last perhaps for generations.

The tax payer will pick up the tab for the government where money is no object, but those who are defending the individual and their rights are funding it themselves. I think we should be eternally grateful for these people and their stand for the British Constitution, their understanding that the Royal Perogative is being exploited in order to support a group of people who are keen to shut down debate and push through an idea without any recourse to representative democratic s which is the British way of doing politics.

The British Constitution is to be found in the miriad laws past over the previous centuries, and this is one of the most important and interesting cases addressing the rights of the individual for centuries.

3QCs 2 representing individuals and 1 representing a large group who clubbed together to fund a QC

Hmm...you think? Always that possibility of course, especially if they've managed to secure the services of an ardent Remain voter.

Perhaps they're doing some of the work pro bono.

Yes, I do know how much QC's charge, which is why I was surprised how low the total aimed for was.

Do you know what QCs cost? You need the very best you can afford, especially in a case like this where the government will pay whatever it takes.

Note the crowd fund is over halfway; it rose by about 2 grand in 20 minutes or so...