Brexit and power to the people

ah dear petra - I am glad you are aware - but for the life of me cannot understand how anyone could possibly consider losing all control on all our utilities and energy sources to give us 'our power and independence back'. But please, do enlighten me as I am totally unable to 'get it'.

Just put that on the Thersa May thread. Hadn't realised you'd mentioned it on here, granjura.
I am sure the government could have stopped it.
Exactly what do Brexiteers want to take back?
There is nothing left. Would like to hear one of them say they wish to take back control of the NHS.

granjura Thanks for that information. I'm sure that there are many of us ignoramous brexiters who were completely unaware of that not
But thanks for sharing anyway, just in case one of us has been living on another planet for the past 20 yrs.

which other way is there? Facts are facts.

That's one way of looking at it gran

The naïvity and incredulity of Brexiters about 'power to the people' is mind boggling. Most of our power/energy has been sold down the river to the Frenc, Germans and many more.
And today vast sections of our oil supply and energy has been sold to the Chinese and Qatar - where they will have us totally and literally 'up over a barrel'. This making 150m for our coffers, and 4 BILLION for the shareholders.

POWER to the people indeed

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/national-grid-sells-shares-china-qatar-investors-a7463256.html?cmpid=facebook-post

EU citizens representative ( that's us folks!) challenging the government at the moment. A female!!!!

Scottish QC giving representation against the government at the moment. I missed this mornings -too busy.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/06/supreme-court-justices-subdued-in-face-of-a-pannick-attack-gina-miller-barrister-article-50

Unfortunately, it's all ours.
Not one of the last three justice secretaries has known anything about the law, which seems strange, as so many lawyers become MPs. You'd think the government would be able to find one, at least!

the Cabinet of incompetence

Theresa May was in Bahrain when she talked about the red, white and blue Brexit.
Bahrain's flag is red and white.
A sad Bahrain flag?

I agree. But we want the judges to write it, not the government.
Can you imagine what a mess the justice secretary would make of it? She was talking about dogs barking to disrupt drugs drops outside prisons today!

I do think a written constitution might be no bad thing, even if it's only a broad brush stroke type of thing.

The only Magna Carta clause left which applies to everyone.

It is important that our judiciary cannot and are not intimidated by politicians or supporters of politicians like the media.

To do so threatens the very foundation if our constitution and rule of law, which states that All are equal under the law.

I thought a couple of things the Government QC sounded like a threat to the judges. Not a good way to proceed I would have thought.

I hope this is wrong.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/12/06/the-article-50-case-makes-clear-how-urgently-the-uk-needs-a-written-constitution/

However, May has said she agrees to the Labour bill tomorrow, but will just add a bit about the date.
Would that have happened if it hadn't been for this court case?
Do you think she has been advised that she will lose?

Today's flurry involves Msr Barnier (?) chief negotiator talking tough - no cherry picking and after Article 50 there will be a mere 18 months to negotiate, leaving 6 months for the other nations to discuss and ratify.
And in the red, white and blue corner PM and Johnson saying that they are going to get a great deal for Britain.
Sigh.

Question

Has parliament bestowed the powers to a particular minister to take away whole statutes?

Argument is that here has never been conferred such powers by parliament to the executive.

RP cannot be used to take away the rights of a British citizen.

Pannick now expanding 7 points supporting the above argument. Looking at various cases.

1972 Act -has constitutional status and has been subsumed within U.K. Domestic law, and created rights and duties.

Argument that when this law was enacted Parliament had no intention at the time that this law could be set aside by a minister.

Lord Pannick will be worth watching - good at his trade.