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mair globalist extremist - what a meaningless phrase

And it doesn't bother you that Polish people in this country are being killed and attacked for being Polish, because of Brexit, yet the government thinks it's okay to ask Polish teachers to come and live here at the same time as we cannot guarantee the right of those who are already here to continue living here?
I find it quite obscene.

I saw somewhere they are also actively trying to recruit doctors from the EU. Not sure about further afield.

I often disagree with you, that's true durhamjen, but in this instance there was certainly no need to read your link. I'd aready read about it.

'John Howson, chair of the teacher recruitment site TeachVac and a visiting professor of education at Oxford Brookes University said: “I am frankly very surprised that in the middle of the debate on Article 50, that the Government is busy going off to these European countries to try and attract teachers.
“In terms of the wider political debate it is a very odd approach to be trawling round a bunch of countries which we are trying to cut off association with.”

It comes as the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC), recommends widening the number of subjects for which schools could recruit from non-EU countries.'

3 EU countries and the USA.
Ana, you always disagree with whatever I say, even without reading the article.

There has been a shortage of maths and science teachers in the UK for decades so trying to source them from elsewhere seems worth a try.

Doesn't bother me!

While we are all watching Theresa May and how she will agree with him on trade and free movement of people, the Education department are advertising for teachers in Czech Republic, Germany, Poland and the USA. That'll please Brexiteers.

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/01/27/governments-secret-300000-overseas-teacher-recruitment-drive/

I agree with GracesGran re the door opening syndrome (think it has been discussed on another thread as well).

I find it a bit odd that Gransnetters whom I would presume to be 'liberated women' are criticising him for that
I thought they would object to a man who rushes round to open the door and help their OH out and offering their arm as if they are incapable.

I saw some footage of Trump surging up the steps on inauguration leaving his wife to make her own way from the other side of the car, clutching a gift for Mrs O.
Blimey I have just looked at the appointments (lack of) list. Usually the new POTUS has a full slate of staff by now.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_of_Donald_Trump
and here is different wiki page, showing those confirmed in their appointments against a beige background...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_of_Donald_Trump%27s_Cabinet

Beware of door-opening men. Obviously not when it is necessary or simply thoughtful because you are going through first and don't want to let it slam in someone's face but I have found (purely a personal view) that the guy who nips round the car to open the door when you are perfectly capable - don't have full hands, etc., - is very much the 'little women' type and doesn't have a great perception of women as people and equal.

That could be just me but I am very wary of them.

I think Trump will treat May with the greatest respect and charm, holding doors open for her like a gentleman. I believe he will want to be seen as that.

Be more impressive if he treated his wife as though he were a gentleman...

Just who are the 'globalist extremeists, Mair?

And it must work for those who have too often felt left behind by the forces of globalisation. People, often those on modest incomes living in relatively rich countries like our own, who feel that the global system of free markets and free trade is simply not working for them in its current form.

Such a deal – allied to the reforms we are making to our own economy to ensure wealth and opportunity is spread across our land – can demonstrate to those who feel locked out and left behind that free markets, free economies and free trade can deliver the brighter future they need. And it can maintain – indeed it can build – support for the rules-based international system on which the stability of our world continues to rely.

This one doesn't sound particularly protectionist.

Bet she struggles to get a word in edgeways. He doesn't strike me as someone who is big on listening respectfully. Specially to women.

I think Trump will treat May with the greatest respect and charm, holding doors open for her like a gentleman. I believe he will want to be seen as that.

*T May is not just you and me, who can pick and choose our friends/allies, and it is naive to think so.
Later on, when good relations have been established she can do some heavy hinting or even plain speaking.Now is not the time, not on this first visit, which is building bridges.*

Correct Roses.
The globalist extremists bear in mind want NO success for May, Brexit or Britain. This tends to suggest that everything they call for should be ignored, which is exactly what I hope and believe May will do!

Oh to be a fly on the Oval Office wall. Bet she struggles to get a word in edgeways. He doesn't strike me as someone who is big on listening respectfully. Specially to women.

They said they weren't doing it before rar but of course they were and much to our shame we were involved in rendition. We need to say loudly and clearly "Never again!"

As you say let's wait and see. Merkel holds a very mature view on Trump -pity May doesn't emulate it.

Whilst I admired Obama I do not think he was particularly friendly towards Britain. Trump hasn't been in office long enough to show whether he will prove to be a friend to UK or not. Trump has also said that he will be guided on the use of torture by his generals, he hasn't actually said he will introduce it. Personally I am against the use of torture in any circumstances. Wanting to trade with a country does not mean we need to "poodle" to them, although the EU seems to expect it.

Not a black and white view at all, a sensible and pragmatic view.We have to deal with people as they are, not as we personally would prefer them to be.
So far, this early in his Presidency, we don't know all that much about what he will do.

sunseeker that's a very black and white view. This chat was about whether Obamas was Britains friend. I pointed out that true friendship is one where you have shared values and a common way of looking at the world. Now as far as I can see Trump has not yet shown that he does indeed share British common values, as opposed to Obama who did.

Now you need then to look at whether it is possible to have any sort of relationship with a particular country. Some countries, like Putins Russia we have chosen to sanction for obvious reasons. If for example Trump reintroduced torture, extraordinary rendition, and refused all Muslims entry to the US. Then we must ask ourselves if we can in fact live with that. I think not, not only because of my value system, but because of our standing in the rest of the world.

Don't forget, we are constantly being reminded particularly since Brexit that Britain is a strong and independent country, that many countries will be thrilled to bits to trade with us. Why then do we need to poodle to America, if they behave like idiots?

T May is not just you and me, who can pick and choose our friends/allies, and it is naive to think so.
Later on, when good relations have been established she can do some heavy hinting or even plain speaking.Now is not the time, not on this first visit, which is building bridges.

Trisher I have I expect, watched as much of the news as you have regarding Trump, therefore know what he said about water boarding/ torture, and although he said he agreed with it, he also said that he had taken advice and they wouldn't be doing it.
None of that is relevant about Obama, and him not being as close to Britain as some other past Presidents.

Nobody has said don't speak to Trump, only that any conversation must emphasise that certain things are not acceptable and that friendship with Obama was easier because we shared similar values. Any deal with Trump will need to be made after clearly stating that we will not be involved, even at a distance, with rendition and torture. It's harder to get someone to moderate their views if you are standing there with a begging bowl waiting for them to drop a trade deal into it.

So we should only be on friendly terms with those whose views are the same as ours? Should we refuse to speak to Trump because of his policies and not trade with USA or should we talk to them and by our own actions try to get them to moderate their views.