Is the sexual orientation of a judge relevent?

thatbags I feel exactly the same.political excitement about opportunities for good changes in the UK sums it up well.

Dave Rubin gets it, the excitement I feel, the political excitement about opportunities for good changes when ordinary people essentially tell the establishment to sod off. Quit the name-calling and stupid wrong assumptions and think!

Six and a half minutes.

What Rubin says, what Harris says, does not make them Trump supporters. Similarly, nothing I've said makes me a Farage supporter. Nothing I haven't said makes me one either.

JessM you must be running out of sensible things to say ( your last post)
And suzied it wouldn't matter if you heard that 200 big firms were taking on masses of workers in the UK, you would still say things like 'that doesn't endorse Brexit'
If Parliament talks down the economy as some on here do, we really would start to do badly.

Oh, they just can't help themselves, roses...

After watching The Daily Politics today, it would seem that so far we are doing quite well as a country, employment highest for years, people spending in the shops,
And firms not pulling out of the UK at all.
Certainly not like the dire warnings from the Remain camp in June, an emergency budget if we left, and economy in freefall.So no need for gloom and doom.

Another wonderful example of wilful misunderstanding, jess. Boy, you're good at that!

suzied can you direct me to any articles where it says that Google wont be employing any British workers.
I know for a fact that most of their office fitters are non British but nothing about these new jobs.
I've just read that Tesla ( 2nd largest electric car manufacturers) are considering putting a plant in the uk because of our F1 expertise.

Ok Google will have 3,00 jobs in London - not of of them for British workers bTW., that doesn't endorse Brexit. Though of course, 30,000 more civil servants needed most of them in London too no doubt. ( maybe they'll be able to recruit from the EU) .

Never took you for a Farage fan thatbags and we all hope it turns out well for you.
But you'll excuse us pessimists who think that the "undemocratic" EU protects the rights of working women, minorities, parents etc.
During the referendum campaign Priti Patel (minister for employment at the time) was rubbing her hands in glee at the prospect of leaving the EU and cutting back on employment legislation. Which translates as things like parental leave, holiday pay for temps and many other things that workers in the EU have. And which workers in other democracies don't. In the USA for instance worker's benefits, including the amount of holiday and maternity leave, is paltry or non existent.

Better democracy. That's what it was always about for me, as I said all along.

Oh look! Some exciting news about a new Google investment in spite of the Brexit vote.

So that sort of thing as well.

Oh dear - excited!

bags what are you exited about?

I bet Theresa May isn't excited about it, or the three Brexiteers.

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/15/may-s-refusal-to-try-for-an-interim-brexit-deal-led-her-to-t

"The leaked Cabinet Office report published last night correlates so exactly with the warnings of critics of Brexit that they might as well have written it themselves.

The memo, published by the Times, found that there was urgent need for 30,000 more staff to deal with the 500 projects started as a result of Brexit. Individual departments had best and worst case scenarios, but there was no joined up thinking at the top. There is no plan."

Just to clarify, I'm excited about leaving the EU. We are not, of course, leaving Europe.

So are you saying that he was stupid to expect Cameron to keep to his undertaking of reducing immigration (legal and illegal, I presume) to 100,000 or less per year? (I think Cameron was stupid to give that undertaking, btw, but he did).

I've nothing to say about people who are opposed to all immigration. I just don't understand that attitude. Immigration simply wasn't one of the things I was concerned about during the referendum campaign.

I'm not relaxed about leaving the EU. I'm quite excited about it. Whether that will last only time will tell.

It was the fact that he thought that leaving the EU would somehow stop illegal immigration Bags.
But I also had a woman in her 80s telling me that immigrants were coming "here" to rape and steal so she was going to vote leave. This in a town with - well if they have a dozen "immigrants" including the Chinese takeaway family, I'd be surprised.
Quite a lot of people said quite openly they were voting leave because of immigration in fact.
But only one thought it would magically prevent illegal migration
Lots of people were completely oblivious to the fact that the UK had a massive debt (my argument being that we were not in great shape to go it alone)
I'm not relaxed about leaving the EU. Bad enough we have a government intent on punishing the poor and dismantling the NHS. But we also have one that seems to be rushing headlong into trashing the economy, causing a massive problem for poor old Ireland, and wasting a fortunes worth of civil service salaries in the process.

This is interesting, comparing how the law works in the UK and the US as far as Trump and Brexit are concerned.

www.lawgazette.co.uk/comment-and-opinion/trump-brexit-and-the-rule-of-law/5058793.article

Aha! Just seen the post. I must admit that before the referendum I saw a couple of vox populi interviews, in which people said they were voting Leave to keep out the Muslims (presumably from Pakistan and Bangladesh).

See JessM's post of 18.02

Who's opposed to illegal immigration? #losttheplot

I'll no doubt get shouted down for this question, but what exactly is so awful about being opposed to illegal immigration? Such a stance does not imply bigotry, just respect for the rule of law, surely?

Favourite quote "I'm going to leave to keep out the illegal immigrants"
I only heard, second-hand of one person who said that, and she didn't include the word 'illegal' and she was under 25 btw!!

Well the Remain voters on GN certainly seem desperate for answers (apart from you of course!).