An oath on British Values?

The last comment was a direct response to the photograph of the inside of a crematorium. Lots of people photograph post boxes and road signs, but I suppose this could catch on.

What a very weird thing to do, if it offends you look the other way. How can the cross offend anyone? What do you do when you go past a graveyard or church? Whip your camera out no doubt.

Isn't integration, merging in with our way of life? Not changing everything so it's like the country they left? I'm sick and tired of this argument, it's too late now to turn the tide.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/18/sajid-javid-british-values-oath-casey-review-social-integration

Not just for immigrants, but for all those who work for the government and all public office holders.
Can't wait for this to be quietly dropped.

We have our main meal at mid day so I am usually drinking my glass of wine at 12.30. Very nice it is but now I am feeling guilty. Not for long though.

As a Master Mariner told "the sun is over the yardarm somewhere in the world just now!" So go ahead!??

Actually I'm only

I dunno Ana it just seems more acceptable .
Unless "one" is on holiday when anytime, is wine time !

Oh good!

How much is classed as 'in moderation'?

Goodness Jalima, it only takes the body about one hour to metabolise a unit of alcohol, your small glassful would have gone ages ago!

I've had a glass already today though (out for lunch)
Just one small white which must have been metabalised a while ago.

Any time is wine time, Jalima. Providing you have it in moderation. Heard today that Prosecco is good for you, in moderation, because of the polyphenols. Never seen those listed on the label.

I nearly choked on my glass of wine when I saw that, though.
Wine? Is it time?

Why does it have to be 7pm gillybob?

I have been known to pace up and down waiting for the clock to hit the 7 mark before taking a swig

Are you having a glass of wine already Durhamjen? It's not even 7pm yet !

I haven't read all this thread, so probably missed a lot.
I believe it should be possible for people from different faiths and backgrounds to live together without giving up their own religions, faiths, cultures. It happens in other countries, why not the UK?
I've just realised that our 2 eldest, sons, are proof of this to some extent. They both teach in international schools, one in Kuwait, and the other in India.
Their early childhood was spent in Singapore, maybe that's something to do with it.
So I don't agree with the oath on British values for immigrants.

More of this needed. In fact there are lots of videos on the More in Common theme.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpoIPSWWM5A

You have agreed with me before, Jalima, but thanks anyway.
I nearly choked on my glass of wine when I saw that, though.

Don't fall on the floor durhamjen but I agree with you

I was quite shocked when I was told!!

(Whispers - they're not Nigerian - they're British.)

If the government wants all immigrants to abide by British values and be integrated into British society, isn't the best place to start in the schools?
So why is there so much emphasis on faith schools, free schools, grammar and public schools?
Integration should start from the top, and be by example.

Thanks for your reply Daphnedil and I do actually agree with most, of your 'mini essay' actually,especially that some people are most certainly racist through and through.And also that an oath is unlikely to change much,and is a token gesture. But I'm still glad the Casey report has highlighted how some towns /areas feel immigration has impacted on their communities.Interestingly my daughter has had a leaflet posted through today entitled 'challenging extremism' but haven't had a chance to actually see it yet.
Your comment on the elderly lady resonates as I remember how my grandma in the early 60s found her neighbourhood changing rapidly before her eyes as families from Pakistan moved in all around here,her local shops changed ownership and a trip to the local market became an unfamiliar experience.I recall she wasn't the most outward looking and outgoing person anyway,and even as a child I didn't like to hear her grumbling.If anything I was quietly ashamed of her intolerance,but she would never have abused anyone,done anything spiteful.She just withdrew even more into her own house, her own world and apart from a weekly trip to town and to see her sister became a bit of a hermit.As I grew up I looked to my mum and her tolerant, inclusive attitude to people and took my lead from her.
I can't agree about the EU funding in the long term,and think that after 40 + years lots of communities still don't see it as shooting themselves in the foot .I agree funding cuts to schools are the biggest problem,but a relatively sudden influx of immigrants speaking multiple languages only execerbates difficulties,and its only inevitable can cause some local resentment.But currently nursing a very sore hand after an injury today I'm signing off for a while and taking some painkillers and time out.Just didn't want to ignore your response.ps .original question way back in August but I do appreciate your answer now.

can someone explain what BRITISH VALUES are please,lifestyles and attitudes are very dfferent where I live in Scotland and where my south of England born son in law comes from.So which one is the british values they'll need to learn?